Thanks Scented,I'll try pouring warmer next time. I rolled the tall one loads & gave up in the end & stuck it in the freezer, I knew it wasn't the best idea but I was getting so frustrated with it! The frosted layer is actually loose in places on most of them but they're just experiments for myself just now so I'm not too bothered. I know they burn ok. As I don't dye my soy I like playing with colour in the pw rustics etc. Judyvega, I'm using a British pw, melt point 57-59* & I'm adding 3 tablespoons stearic, once the frosted layer has cooled enough I added this batch at 145f which is too cool I know, I was doing other things at the time. I'll have another go this w.e,pouring warmer this time. Sally.