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I must of not pulled hard enough. I thought I would just pull the wick out of the tab, but it just didn't budge. I'll pull harder next time... or get my husband to do it

USA is veggie based, as are other additives, like coconut oil, etc. Soy wax is NOT a natural product no matter how much hype you read! It is chemically extracted from soybeans with hexane and then superhydrogenated. You won't be compromising any "purity" by adding a veggie-based additive!!

I have not done a whole lot of research on additives, I'll have to look at the USA. If they are veggie based, I would be more open to it. I do want to stay way from coconut oil since I had people ask if my candles had coconut oil in it because of allergies. Do you know good supplier(s) for the USA that I can start my research at? I will also start doing research on here to see what USA does and other additives. I'm not sold yet, but maybe my research can sway me :smiley2:

I only melted it down to pull the wick out that I glued down. I couldn't get it out with plyers since the tab was there. I have been testing other wicks in it and as soon as I think I have it narrowed down, I was going to pour some more with that wick and start a complete test with that wick.

I am using the 9 oz hex jar. Ecosoya 135 for wax and 1 oz fo with 16 oz of wax. I am thinking (don't know for sure yet since I'm still in the middle of testing) that RRD 40 is the winner, but if somebody has used these wicks and have had good results, let me know. I'm thinking about ordering CD's, but if RRD's work, I'm sticking with them.

note: how do you get multiple quotes in one post... I can't figure it out, hopefully you can follow my post

Yes, it is soy for both the chunks and overpour. I did notice some frosting but I feel like it was more hidden with the white overpour and could live with it. (my mom LOVES the frosting and she says the more the better, I personally don't like it) I just do not want to use additives, I just feel like the more things that I add it is taking away from the soy

I did not relized that you had to wait that long before starting your test. I thought I read somewhere to just wait 24 to 48 hours before starting your burn tests. I will remember that and wait longer from now on. Thank-you.

I ended up just melting down the candle and pulling out the wick. The nice chunks are not there anymore, but at least I can work on narrowing down the wick. I do plan on pouring more candles to test once I have a wick narrowed down.

Do you know of any other suppliers that sells CD sample packs? The only place that I have been able to find so far is Bittercreek and I would like to compare prices before purchasing.

Thankss

I am in process of testing a dye free candle. I currently have RRD 29 in it, but I am now getting about a 1/2 inch to 1/4 inch hang up on the sides. RRD 34 was a torch... so i'm thinking that RRD wicks do not work with dye free candles, but still waiting to the end of the jar to see if the bottom does actually clear up the hang ups. For those who make dye free candles, what wick series do you use? I'm thinking about trying CD's next since it seems like a lot of people use those, but don't know the best place to order a sample pack, my normal place of ordering wicks do not carry that series. I also have looked at the sticky at what people use too, but want to see if there is anybody else out there too.

Here is my measurments for the jar.

7 oz hex jar

3 inches in diamater at largest point

no dye

no additives

1 oz fo for 16 oz of wax (current test is for amish harvest)

ecosoya 135 wax

I use Ecosoya 135 as my wax. The chunks have 1 oz fo per 16 oz of wax. I used 14 drops of Peaks liquid coffee die. any suggestions on why it seems like this?

Its about an hour into my burn test and I walked into the to take some pics and I HAVE A HOT THROW... from what candle, don't know. I lit both of them at the same time so I can get pictures. I'm thinking it is from my dye free because that is the only one I changed wicks on for this burn test. Tomorrow I will continue on doing my one at a time to see which one has the hot throw.

I don't know why they seem so far apart, I'm at a complete loss for words. I started both at RRD 34. I did not start testing the dye free one until I was up to RRD 40 for the chunk candle. I started with RRD 34 since my wick suggesion chart said that was the lowest for a 2-3 inch container dyed a medium shade, so I thought that would be a good starting point.

I barly got a melt pool with the 34 for the chunk after 4 hours, so after the 3rd burn test and still not getting a good melt pool (Lots of hangup on the sides) I decided to try the 37's (next size up). Same thing happened with this wick as the 34's, but a little better melt pool. So I pulled that wick and now working on the 40's. (which is almost the middle of the road according to the wick chart for my jar size). I'm getting a better melt pool with that one, but I didn't center my wick very well, so I'm getting hang up on one of the sides.

Since I was up to the 40's on the chunk candle, I decided to light my dye free one to see how that was going to be. I only filled the dye free up half way so I can get a feel for how the bottom half of the jar would burn before trying a full jar. The 34's was a huge torch and I had a full melt pool and a huge carbon ball on the top before the full 3 hours was up. So that is why I pulled it and went down to the 29's. I just lite that one again to see how the 29's do.

I will work on getting pictures for you to show how they are burning.

I am testing both a dye free and chunk candles right now. Both are in a 9 oz hex jar and both scented with Amish Harvest at 1 oz per 16 oz of wax. So far in my testing (still not completly done yet) the dye free is at wick size RRD 29 (still waiting for that one to reharden from switching the wick since RRD 34 was a torch) and the chunk candle is at RRD 40. (That one seems to be burning good, but still does not have a hot throw imo- could be candlenose). Does the little bit of dye that I have in the chuck candle affect the wicks that much? These are my first 2 that I have done (dye free and chunk) and I have not tested full color with these new wicks yet.

True... I have tureens that I couldn't get wicked, so I decided to start testing them as wickless, but am afraid of them shattering while not in my own home and I don't know how many customers will listen to me if I say they are used for top warmers only. I've been brainstorming other ideas that do not use heat, maybe aroma beads and use them as air fresheners, but I don't know if they make slotted covers for the 11 oz jars. (I have not found them yet, so if somebody knows of a place that does, please pass on the link) I accidently updated the wrong jar size for more quantity, so I have 3 boxes of 12 of them.

Yeah, I think my 30 days is up sometime next week. By the time I will need you guys to help me test, I will have my 30 days up. Thanks for helping me though that:yay:

Thanks, my second born really isn't a new born. My husband and I are adopting, so he is over a toddler already.

Do you have to be in the group for so long before you can Private massage. I did Starr said and i didn't have that option?

Thanks

Thanks... I may take you guys up on that offer. Fellow candles makers would give me a better idea of what is good and not. After finding this group, I pulled all my candles off the market and started over. I learned so much from this group that I wish I knew before hand. Except, I still don't know how to private message people, so you may need to let me know how to do that:smiley2: . I have a few people to test this current round that I am ready for and I'm busy getting ready to bring home my second born in a few weeks, so it may be a month or two before my next round is ready.

Yeah, I've been doing my mom and family members too. My mom takes 4 months to get through 1 candle and I feel like my testers need to take a little less time than that since I'm trying to get product on the market. It takes me 3 to 8 weeks to get a jar ready for my testers, so I would like my testers to be through with it burning at least the 4 hours a day, 4 weeks to get through. That gives them 18 days of not having to burn it during the test time. That way I can start testing any changes I see fit from their results or put it on the market.

Thanks Stella

I have been toying with the idea for glass jars on warmers. I have been testing one for almost 3 weeks now with no problems (on a warmer from the bottom), but I keep hearing the same thing you said, which does make me nervious. I do have some tins that I have been testing too (I just call them both jars for some reason, should really clarify for you guys) and are the ones that I'm about ready to send to my friends to test. I'm not as happy with those since it does not look as pretty as the glass ones do whole burning/melting and with my candle nose, I cannot figure out how long the scent last. :smiley2:

It just baffels my mind that all the pictures I see of the warmers have glass jars on them. If we are having problems with glass jars, why do companies keep advertising them with glass jars.

What do you do to get people to test thier candles. I have a few friends that test candles for me. When I have a new one to test, I normally post on my facebook to my friends asking for help. I'm getting less and less people to help me out, so any suggestions on how to get new or more people would be appreciated. The ones that are helping me out are the same ones over and over again and I do not want to burn (no pun intended) them out testing a new product each time.

Thanks

Thanks for the picture. I talked to my mom last night about them and when I get home from vacation, we are going to sit down, brainstorm a design, and sew up a couple of them to start testing.

Thanks. I do that with my wicked, don't know why wickless would be different. :rolleyes2 I put a message to all my facebook friends to get some volunteers. (who wouldn't want free candles).

Since I am getting ready to to pour the testers for my friends, would this warning lable have everything that I would need? I plan on having all labels on the lid and include a card in the packaging.

CAUTION: Use only with a approved electric candle warmer on a stable heat-resistant surface. Do not cover or warm on stove. Wax and container can get very hot; do not touch or move container or warmer until completely cooled. Contains fragrance oils that can be toxic if ingested. Keep out of reach of children and pets. Do not pour wax down the drain because it can clog pipes. Never leave melting candle unattended.

so would you say it would be a safe bet that once I have determined if the jar that I'm using is safe, I don't have to test each scent as exstensivly since I'm not worrying about wicking (since it is wickless). Just making sure I get a great hot throw from new scents, or am I not thinking correctly?

(I do have insurance inplace again after getting kicked off my other insurance. So, I'm off to selling again, just trying to add a new product to my line.)

I have one from P....lite and i was looking at the tag today. It is made with flaxseed and lavender. It smells amazing. I'm trying to figure out what they use to scent it.

I have Peaks and my customers and I say it is dead on.

Does anybody know how to make the scented neck wraps. I know how to do the rice/corn ones, but how do you make them scented? Would rice, corn or something different be better since they are scented. I would love to add these to my line for the holidays. (yes, i'm thinking Christmas already )

I have been testing a wickless candle for a few weeks now and having a great time. People are starting to ask when they will be available for sale since they love how my house is smelling. How long did you test your wickless jar candles before you put your first one(s) on the market.

Thanks for the chart, that does seem very helpful to give me a starting point for my mom.

Yes, I do go by the widest part of the jar. :smiley2:

My mom gave me a jar that she would like me to refill. I personally don't like doing that, but its my mom. I told her that I don't have time to test it because i'm trying to get a new line together for a show next month. She said to take my best guess and she will test it for me... so I'm coming to you. I have done a search, but do not see one posted before (unless I missed it) I have not worked with this jar before. It is 16 oz and just under 4 inches wide. I use ecosoya 135 as my wax. My mom said it had only 1 wick before. I have cotton core wicks, lx and rrd. I don't really want to buy new wicks just for this jar. any suggestions on where to even start? I also use 16 oz of wax and 1 oz of fo. She hasn't picked out a scent yet, but it will probably be cranberry citrus (knowing her) so a dark burgandy color.

Thanks for your time and please let me know if you need additional information.