Well, I didn't care for either base and decide to get the Caprol Micro Express from Lotioncrafter. So far I like the formulation I have come up with. As for the lotion bases, I am currently using the Basic Lotion base from WSP, but didn't like that it didn't contain many oils. I just got the lotion and cream creator in and will be playing with that this week. I am going to try a regular lotion recipe using the recipe from their site, with a few modications, and then a shea/oatmeal lotion (like St. Ives) as well. Steph