YAMS Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I have developed an enormous trust for candle science FOs. What do most of you consider to be staple FOs from them? I know for sure I have a three that I will make mine: Mcintosh Apple, Mediterranean Fig and Amber Noir some of mine. Which ones are great performers for you? Strong scented? Thanks guys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 So many. Apple Maple Bourbon, Snickerdoodle, Fraser Fir, Spring Rain, Violet Lime, Black Currant Tea, Pink Magnolia Blossom, Cotton Tree, Christmas Hearth, and Vanilla Hazelnut are my current favorites. I could go on and on. They have so many great ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 In 464 these are super throwers: Apple Harvest Apple Clover Apple Maple Bourbon Black Raspberry Vanilla Christmas Hearth Coriander and Tonka Cranberry Marmalade Frasier Fir Fresh Coffee Gardenia Hazelnut Coffee Hollyberry Honey Dew Melon Honeysuckle Lavender Lemon Verbena Mac Apple Mistletoe Mulled Cider & Chestnuts Orange Chili Pepper Peach Nectar Pumpkin Pie Strawberry Shortcake Vanilla Hazelnut Trappeur 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 14 hours ago, bfroberts said: So many. Apple Maple Bourbon, Snickerdoodle, Fraser Fir, Spring Rain, Violet Lime, Black Currant Tea, Pink Magnolia Blossom, Cotton Tree, Christmas Hearth, and Vanilla Hazelnut are my current favorites. I could go on and on. They have so many great ones. Thanks BFRoberts. I already tried Frasier Fir at 6% and the HT is not very good. I will order another sample and increase the FO%. I also have Christmas Hearth and will make it this week. Thanks for the input. I took note of all the ones you listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 14 hours ago, Trappeur said: In 464 these are super throwers: Apple Harvest Apple Clover Apple Maple Bourbon Black Raspberry Vanilla - ORDERED Christmas Hearth - READY TO TEST Coriander and Tonka - ORDERED Cranberry Marmalade - READY TO TEST Frasier Fir - DIDN'T WORK TO WELL AT 6% - WHAT % DO YOU USE Fresh Coffee Gardenia Hazelnut Coffee Hollyberry Honey Dew Melon Honeysuckle - READY TO TEST Lavender Lemon Verbena Mac Apple - MY FAVORITE OF ALL FOs SO FAR!!!!!!!!! Mistletoe - ORDERED Mulled Cider & Chestnuts Orange Chili Pepper Peach Nectar Pumpkin Pie Strawberry Shortcake Vanilla Hazelnut Trappeur Hi Trappeur. I am glad you mentioned these. See my notes next to some of the names you provided. The rest I will order to sample them also. This is very helpful. I use 4627 wax but I am sure they are good performers and may also work well on mine. Thanks a million!!! Very helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I was just going to ask you what wax you were using.....and you said it...4627. Oh, I do 6% in all my candles. You asked about Frasier Fir. Trappeur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) 47 minutes ago, YAMS said: Thanks BFRoberts. I already tried Frasier Fir at 6% and the HT is not very good. I will order another sample and increase the FO%. I also have Christmas Hearth and will make it this week. Thanks for the input. I took note of all the ones you listed. Have you given any of your candles to anyone else to test? I cannot wrap my head around Fraser Fir not throwing in 4627. I haven't used 4627, but I've put this FO in 6006, palm, 4630 and my tart blend which is 4625 and 4630, and it was a superstar in all of those waxes. I cannot imagine it would not throw in 4627. Have you tried other wick types? I use HTP's in 4630. I would think they would work well in 4627, too. By the way, I was just looking over Trappeurs list, and the Sweet Orange & Chili Pepper is a nose hair burner for me. That might be a good one to try also. Edited October 17, 2016 by bfroberts 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponiebr Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 I soap so my choices are a little more limited, BUT... These are the ones I have to have on hand: Pomegranate Cider Red Current Jamaica Me Crazy Cucumber Mint Himalayan Bamboo Citron and Mandarin Ginger and Red Saffron I also really like: Pumpkin Pie Snickerdoodle Black Sea Strawberry Shortcake Ocean Breeze Coconut Pine Cone Blue Spruce Mistletoe Frasier Fir Sea Mist Vetiver (This one may end up in my stock list) Mediterranean Fig Fig and Brown Sugar Holly Berry Juniper Breeze Christmas Tree I love the smell of Christmas Hearth, but I can't use it in soap... (Which SUCKS) Their Plumeria and Bayberry are nice as well... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, bfroberts said: Have you given any of your candles to anyone else to test? I cannot wrap my head around Fraser Fir not throwing in 4627. I haven't used 4627, but I've put this FO in 6006, palm, 4630 and my tart blend which is 4625 and 4630, and it was a superstar in all of those waxes. I cannot imagine it would not throw in 4627. Have you tried other wick types? I use HTP's in 4630. I would think they would work well in 4627, too. By the way, I was just looking over Trappeurs list, and the Sweet Orange & Chili Pepper is a nose hair burner for me. That might be a good one to try also. BFRoberts, That's the way I felt too about Frasier Fir. That's why I think it is something I did differently because I have gotten very strong HT with other less potent fragrances..... I only added 9% FO and I mostly use 11% with my wax but I doubt that 9% would make such a difference for the negative. I see a lot of you use even 6% with this wax and the HT reviews are great. That's what one of the giveaways for me because I couldn't believe this FO wouldn't throw well. I haven't tried other wicks except for the LX series. I have read so much good stuff about Zinc that I decided to stick with it and work with it. I hear HTPs curve a bit?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Trappeur said: I was just going to ask you what wax you were using.....and you said it...4627. Oh, I do 6% in all my candles. You asked about Frasier Fir. Trappeur Frasier Fir smells so strong out of the bottle that it is doubtful that it would have such poor HT. It has to be something I did wrong :-(. Thanks Trappeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfroberts Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 19 minutes ago, YAMS said: BFRoberts, That's the way I felt too about Frasier Fir. That's why I think it is something I did differently because I have gotten very strong HT with other less potent fragrances..... I only added 9% FO and I mostly use 11% with my wax but I doubt that 9% would make such a difference for the negative. I see a lot of you use even 6% with this wax and the HT reviews are great. That's what one of the giveaways for me because I couldn't believe this FO wouldn't throw well. I haven't tried other wicks except for the LX series. I have read so much good stuff about Zinc that I decided to stick with it and work with it. I hear HTPs curve a bit?? Yes, HTP's are self trimming so they do curl. Not a problem really. I wick a little cool so the container doesn't get too hot on one side, and any hang up melts off as the candle burns down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I use a good many Candle Science fo--some for cp soap and others for candles. I normally don't buy the 1 oz but did get a few new ones during their recent 1 oz sale to put in 4625 pillars. I've been testing banana nut bread and Black Sea but can't quite make up my mind whether to produce with these. Anyone use these for candles. Beach Linen is one of my favorites for candles, and I use this for my pillars that I embed with seashells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trappeur Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Well the only things I can think about is...how long did they cure...(very important). Also you might try backing down to 6%. Could be clogging the wick. Then maybe you need to change to a different style wick. Final thing is the fragrance maybe is just not compatable...Hard to believe, but maybe so. Trappeur 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 20 hours ago, Luci said: I use a good many Candle Science fo--some for cp soap and others for candles. I normally don't buy the 1 oz but did get a few new ones during their recent 1 oz sale to put in 4625 pillars. I've been testing banana nut bread and Black Sea but can't quite make up my mind whether to produce with these. Anyone use these for candles. Beach Linen is one of my favorites for candles, and I use this for my pillars that I embed with seashells. Lucy, I just tried Black Sea (not burned yet) but the smell is amazing. Great scent. Not sure that I will be happy with the HT based on how they smell now but we will see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luci Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I'm getting what I consider a decent HT for this type of fragrance. My main concern is that so many customers expect a HT to fill a cathedral, and this type of scent just isn't going to do that. This year I'm on a tighter than usual budget and have to be more careful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I get a crazy awesome throw from pretty much all of the ones that are three leaves on the soy chart on the site. I use 464 too, with CD wicks. Pumpkin souffle and Cranberry Marmalade are my two that I cannot live without. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franu61 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I use 464 w/ htp wicks: Very Vanilla Egyptian Amber Golden Rose Lime cooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jul Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 10/16/2016 at 9:37 PM, YAMS said: I have developed an enormous trust for candle science FOs. What do most of you consider to be staple FOs from them? I know for sure I have a three that I will make mine: Mcintosh Apple, Mediterranean Fig and Amber Noir some of mine. Which ones are great performers for you? Strong scented? Thanks guys wish I had seen this sooner. Blood Orange. very strong and great scent, imo. I ordered cranberry marmalade and their apple harvest. I can get back with you on that. thanks for sharing your three. I'll try them next time. jmh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jul Posted November 19, 2016 Share Posted November 19, 2016 On 10/16/2016 at 11:23 PM, Trappeur said: In 464 these are super throwers: Apple Harvest Apple Clover Apple Maple Bourbon Black Raspberry Vanilla Christmas Hearth Coriander and Tonka Cranberry Marmalade Frasier Fir Fresh Coffee Gardenia Hazelnut Coffee Hollyberry Honey Dew Melon Honeysuckle Lavender Lemon Verbena Mac Apple Mistletoe Mulled Cider & Chestnuts Orange Chili Pepper Peach Nectar Pumpkin Pie Strawberry Shortcake Vanilla Hazelnut Trappeur thanks for that list. I'll try a few of them. I recently started making candles and I have been using Candle Science. One that I have tried which I like a lot is Blood Orange. great scent and very strong. jmh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMS Posted November 19, 2016 Author Share Posted November 19, 2016 55 minutes ago, Jul said: wish I had seen this sooner. Blood Orange. very strong and great scent, imo. I ordered cranberry marmalade and their apple harvest. I can get back with you on that. thanks for sharing your three. I'll try them next time. jmh Thanks Jul. I'll be trying those as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstar Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 On 10/20/2016 at 3:59 PM, Luci said: I use a good many Candle Science fo--some for cp soap and others for candles. I normally don't buy the 1 oz but did get a few new ones during their recent 1 oz sale to put in 4625 pillars. I've been testing banana nut bread and Black Sea but can't quite make up my mind whether to produce with these. Anyone use these for candles. Beach Linen is one of my favorites for candles, and I use this for my pillars that I embed with seashells. I would love to see one of your pillars with seashells - sounds beautiful ! Ive always wanted to try pillars - maybe one day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 On 10/20/2016 at 2:59 PM, Luci said: Black Sea but can't quite make up my mind whether to produce with these. Anyone use these for candles. Planning to use it in candles, if not, then melts or it might just mix better than Driftwood with leather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incendia Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Here are some of my impressions of FO samples received today from CS. I ordered 23 of them. Some are scents I already have, and just adding to the stash. Some are scents I had no clue about, and was just curious. (What is a Vetiver anyway?) Out of the Bottle impressions of CS scents new to me, in no particular order: -Vetiver. People like this scent. lol? It must be a mixer. mildly acrid. -Plumeria. OK. There must be something better out there. Only vaguely like any real life Plumeria I've smelled. -Egyptian Amber. I've smelled that scent before. I like it. Nice. -Lemon verbena. Smells more like those lemon drop hard candies. Flamings is much better. -Very vanilla. Very good. Right near the top of my favorite vanilla scents. Would buy again. -Fraser fir. Nice conifer scent. Not quite like our western Christmas trees which I'm looking for, but a real tree scent. -Pine cones. OK conifer scent. Nothing off about it. Maybe a little sweetness to it. -Christmas tree. Not horrible. Not great. It will get used. -Blue spruce. Really like this one. To my nose, it edges out the Fraser fir. But they are the two winners in the conifer throw-down. -Cinnamon vanilla. Quite nice. More cinnamon than vanilla. Would make a nice 'cinnamon toast'. -Nag Champa. The adventure continues. Smells like hotel soap -Fireside. more like 'after the fire is out'. Not unpleasant, but not very strong. I think it might get lost mixed with other scents. -Vanilla hazelnut. I really like this one. Best of these samples. Nice nutty scent, plus good vanilla. OOB of course. -Lavender chamomile. Plain lavender is much better. This will probably get mixed with other lavender sample orphans. -Jamaica Me Crazy. I had no clue about his one. Over-riding grapefruit scent, which is not my favorite. -Caramelized Pralines. Quite yummy. Thumbs up. -Cedarwood vanilla. Smells more like wet cedar ashes. Darn... that was the last of the new ones. I want more... In general, I'm quite pleased with my order of never before tried samples. Very few real stinkers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonstar Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 9 hours ago, Incendia said: Here are some of my impressions of FO samples received today from CS. I ordered 23 of them. Some are scents I already have, and just adding to the stash. Some are scents I had no clue about, and was just curious. (What is a Vetiver anyway?) Out of the Bottle impressions of CS scents new to me, in no particular order: -Vetiver. People like this scent. lol? It must be a mixer. mildly acrid. -Plumeria. OK. There must be something better out there. Only vaguely like any real life Plumeria I've smelled. -Egyptian Amber. I've smelled that scent before. I like it. Nice. -Lemon verbena. Smells more like those lemon drop hard candies. Flamings is much better. -Very vanilla. Very good. Right near the top of my favorite vanilla scents. Would buy again. -Fraser fir. Nice conifer scent. Not quite like our western Christmas trees which I'm looking for, but a real tree scent. -Pine cones. OK conifer scent. Nothing off about it. Maybe a little sweetness to it. -Christmas tree. Not horrible. Not great. It will get used. -Blue spruce. Really like this one. To my nose, it edges out the Fraser fir. But they are the two winners in the conifer throw-down. -Cinnamon vanilla. Quite nice. More cinnamon than vanilla. Would make a nice 'cinnamon toast'. -Nag Champa. The adventure continues. Smells like hotel soap -Fireside. more like 'after the fire is out'. Not unpleasant, but not very strong. I think it might get lost mixed with other scents. -Vanilla hazelnut. I really like this one. Best of these samples. Nice nutty scent, plus good vanilla. OOB of course. -Lavender chamomile. Plain lavender is much better. This will probably get mixed with other lavender sample orphans. -Jamaica Me Crazy. I had no clue about his one. Over-riding grapefruit scent, which is not my favorite. -Caramelized Pralines. Quite yummy. Thumbs up. -Cedarwood vanilla. Smells more like wet cedar ashes. Darn... that was the last of the new ones. I want more... In general, I'm quite pleased with my order of never before tried samples. Very few real stinkers. I mixed vanilla with the Caramelized Pralines and it smells like butter pecan ice-cream to my nose lol ! which is one of my favorite ice-cream flavors ! I too like the cinnamon vanilla and vanilla hazelnut Did you try the orange blossom by chance ? Another one i really like is the blood orange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incendia Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 4 hours ago, Moonstar said: I mixed vanilla with the Caramelized Pralines and it smells like butter pecan ice-cream to my nose lol ! which is one of my favorite ice-cream flavors ! I too like the cinnamon vanilla and vanilla hazelnut Did you try the orange blossom by chance ? Another one i really like is the blood orange. Some of these new (to me) CS scents that you mention are really nice. As for the orange blossom, I did have it in my cart, but it is a fragrance that requires more expensive shipping, so I removed it. I've had mixed results with orange type FOs. Half of the time, my nose picks up a grapefruit aspect that is a turn-off, so I am less likely to take a risk with them. That's too bad because I love the scent of real orange blossoms. I did order one from Peaks that was spot-on however. I love that one. I know people have different senses of smell. And that our taste and olfactory senses influence one another. About 25% of the population are 'super tasters' because of more taste buds per unit area on their tongues. I am one. We are the people who hate dislike the taste of arugula, Brussel sprouts, coffee, beer, grapefruit, black licorice, hard liquor etc. We also prefer milk to dark chocolate, and white wine over red. It's not a fool-proof list, of course. I wonder how much this affects which FO people like me like/dislike. Since I can pick up an 'unpleasant' grapefruit scent in some scents sold as 'orange', I wonder what else is influenced because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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