CranberryGirl Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I hate soy!!!!!!!!Holy smokes!! U can't get it to burn!! It is horrable!! I feel like the only reson it does not smoke is because it does not burn right..or like parifin...para soy is different..But I mean 100% soy is yucky@!!!!!!!!we have tried every wic...rrd's,htp's ,Cd's,lx'sANd the stuff just bites...Is there a new level of acceptance when it comes to soy? what is acceptiable in parafin is not acceptibale in soy! I love my zink wicks..and my parafin...Do U guys find there is a lower standard of burning when it comes to soy?Wicks that are burnt out? and have big embers on the ends..so the flame looks like crap? That has happend with Every wic we have used!!and If You double wic it..Holy cow talk about wild stuff...and discoloring the wax...I like my candles to have a flame that glows and is bright...What is the point of soy...when U add fo it makes it not natural..anyway....sorry Just venting!!! I hate soy...I think i will always hate soy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mindy5140 Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I use 100% soy with beeswax, with a 100% soy your never going to have a perfect looking candle. It will look rough after you burn it, and sometimes before you burn it. Sometimes I share your frustrations with soy, but I like it. I have never used parafin so I don't have a clue. All I know is that its smooth.I don't think my standards are low with my soy, I want the same thing as parafin candle makers. A nice looking, clean burning, awesome smelling candle.With soy I have noticed that, Looks aren't everything to everybody, and frosting comes with the territory.Not to be nosy but what kind of container were you using to test??Good Luck,Mindy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindym Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 You definitely have to do a lot of testing with soy and it has to be something you really want to use, if not I say move on. :laugh2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waxwench Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I'm actually LOL here, as I'm a soy hater too. Different reasons than you though! Pre-candle, it stinks.Post-candle, I can still smell that soy smell. Maybe I have an overactive snout, who knows. But, can't stand the stuff. I can't even add it to paraffin, as I canstill smell it. I say stick with your paraffin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Ice Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I started out with parrafin and switched to soy. If you're not willing to devote A LOT of time and testing to get the results, go back to what you were using before the soy. It isn't for everyone. I love it and I use zinc wicks. You have to accept alot of different results with soy. I don't have any sort of a problem with getting it to throw for me either nor color issues but that just me and my soy wax. I never use additives either although I do conbine more than one soy wax to get my results. I've got my formula mastered but that just me. Many local chandlers tried to switch to soy and gave up because they refused to take the time to understand the nature of soy waxes. They want instant results and you can't have those with soy. They refused to pour at the right temps, cure a candle properly. They gave up and got out of candles. I personally love it and would get out of candles completely before going back to parrifin. But that me.:lipsrseal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Makin Momma Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I use Ezsoy. It makes an awesome looking candle and it burns and throws great. Much better than any other candle I've ever used. ( I guess they were all parafin.)You just have to know how to use it, I guess. I never have a problem with it. And neither to my customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grannyscandles Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I started with soy went to parafin and have come full circle back to soy. Yeah it is a different animal but so worth it. I too would quit altogether before going back to parafin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beesweet Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Waxwench, you're not alone! I, too, can smell and hate the soy smell. I have been mixing with paraffin, though, and can handle it much better, but still having wick issues so I'm playing with the blend ratio. I tried EZsoy and had problem after problem...scent leakage, ugly tops, frosting, inconsistent burning during testing. Every jar burned different even with the same FO and wick. Some folks are sooo lucky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1_AJ Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I do both kinds of candles and love both and refuse to give up making either kind of candle. LOLYou do have to have a bit of a different mindset when going the soy route. They are not easy, but I love my soy. Sorry to hear it's been such a pain for you! The only thing about soy that I dislike is how they burn differently in different weather. That does kinda bug me, but nothing I can do about the weather so I guess I'd better just learn to roll with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I started with soy so I don't know much about paraffin. I tested a lot of soy waxes and a lot of wicks before I chose to use EZSoy. I have different wicks for different containers, mostly Ecos and CDs. I agree that soy can sometimes take on peculiar characteristics such as bumpy tops or frosting, but neither my customers nor I seem to mind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I love soy but it does pose some difficulties since it is natural substance and can be very unstable. But once you get used to it and see how easy it really can be in some respects, I can't imagine using anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranberryGirl Posted April 7, 2006 Author Share Posted April 7, 2006 LOL!! I love the looks of soy! ANd I can smell the soy when I light it and when I blow it out...I have been a candlemaker for over 10years..and I am not about to quit now..I just don't like what I see as far as burning..we have been testing soy for over 6 months and have yet to make a batch of strait soy that I like...I am using ezsoy..I don't mind frosting ect..I just don't like the way it burns..that is just me..I know there is alot of soy lovers out there..And we will keep working and testing it...but i was just fustrated with MY results...Thanks for the pick up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breanna Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I have started into soy,,finding I really like the new GB 464,,with Soy I have found you either have to use 2 wicks or the largest you can find,,I am happy with this wax using HTP 1312 for the 464,,,I have noticed with the different FOs I need to double wick,,But I think it is so worth it!!! I am a paraffin lover and will continue with it for my pillars..but I want to make soy containers,,,HAve you tried the 700 premier series wicks? A lot of Soy users love them for that...Any way Good Luck!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheilaW Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I have always used paraffin and palm and just last week poured my very first soy blend and pure soy ( both from greenleaf ) I'm lovin the 70/30 and the pure soy so far is doing great. I had read the veg. board forever it seems so I was prepared for the weirdness of all soy so I don't mind the frosting, bumpy tops etc. I'm hoping to have an all soy line with eo's as fragrance. Only time will tell, I may end up slinging them out the door in frustration:grin2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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