idacandlelady Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Can anyone give me their opinion on which is better in Soy wax, powdered or liquid dyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Liquid is more practical. There are a few types that don't contain nasty solvents, such as Pryme and EVO. Those have less tendency to cause frosting in soy wax. They also lack the bad smell and you won't have to worry that the fumes will slowly transform you into a trembling spastic retard.Powder dye is what the various colorants are made from. It's pure straight dye, hence very concentrated. For individual candles or small batches it's unlikely you have a scale capable of weighing the small amounts you need. It's also unlikely you'll get it to dissolve completely added straight to the wax. Plus you should wear a respirator when using it. You'll never suspect it's floating through the air until every surface in the immediate area with the slightest greasy film on it becomes speckled with little dots of color.So yeah. Liquid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystical_angel1219 Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Liquid is more practical. They also lack the bad smell and you won't have to worry that the fumes will slowly transform you into a trembling spastic retard.Thank you for your personal synopsis, Top. :rolleyes2 And of course I chose to capture the statement with the most delivery value.Liquids are better for soy, IMO. You need a gram scale to weigh out those powdered dyes effectively. Not to mention the airbourne particals. I know peeps on here rave about Pryme colors~ but I get a rich, dark true red from Tri-State liquid dyes. At half the cost and much less fuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeana Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 EVO liquids are the best I have used so far.Pryme colors are overrated. They smell, they are messy and it still takes a lot of color to make dark shades. JMO:D I've never used powders but I have tried tons of liquids and color chips. Chips are really nice for pale colors. For dark red, brown, blue, and purple liquids do a great job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 EVO liquids are the best I have used so far.Pryme colors are overrated. They smell, they are messy and it still takes a lot of color to make dark shades. JMO:D I've never noticed a smell from the Pryme colors.I think you're comparing apples to oranges. If you like apples, that doesn't make oranges "overrated".These colorants are used in different ways by people with different needs. EVO dyes are used like conventional liquid colorants. If you want an exceptionally concentrated dye and prefer to count drops, that is the one you use. If you want to weigh your dyes for maximum scalability across a range of shades, EVO isn't useful and Pryme is the only product that meets the need.The fact that you use more is part of the design. When you want to do a subtle shade you could still do it with Pryme Plus or Base, but you actually switch to the less concentrated Fade so that you can use an easily weighable amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idacandlelady Posted April 25, 2006 Author Share Posted April 25, 2006 Where do the Tri State dyes come from? And also do they smell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 in my personal experience, chips and powder will not frost, whereas liquid can cause some frosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breanna Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Hi Everyone!! I use all three. I use dye chips with my pillars, tarts and votives. I use the liquid only for some colors such as black, browns, and Pink and when I use IGI- 4786. I use pryme colors for my Soy, to me it makes a sharper, richer color for the veggie based, or soy products. I have never had any smell from the Pryme dyes. JMO;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candle Man Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 I've never noticed a smell from the Pryme colors.I got the complete sample kit and they smell as bad or worse than regular liquid dye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeana Posted April 25, 2006 Share Posted April 25, 2006 Finally!!Thank you! Someone else that notices the smell. I can even smell it very strong in the finished candles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn Posted April 26, 2006 Share Posted April 26, 2006 I know for EZsoy they don't recommend liquid dye, as it frosts more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stacien Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 I use Liquid dye from Lonestar. I get a lot of frosting no matter what I try. It gets worse when the room is cooler. I first bought the color blocks when I first started. It never bothered me to wait for it to melt all the way. I did get solid coloring. But the pain was shaving it off for small batches. That is where drops is more convenient. If I want to throw out a quick tester candle I just add a drop or two. I am just frustrated and I don't feel like doing a large math calculation just to color a candle. I have a nice smooth pouring technique down pat. I am just not comfortable with the blooming. Has anyone ever used these dyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystical_angel1219 Posted April 28, 2006 Share Posted April 28, 2006 Where do the Tri State dyes come from? And also do they smell?No odor to me. http://www.tristatecandlesupply.net/dye.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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