Vicky_CO Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 I need a some thing that will thicken but not affect the foaming qualities. Does any one have any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 What type of formulation? A shampoo?? A scrub? Need more info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 I'm really liking Crothix, will something like that work? Not sure where I bought it, maybe MMS? The Herbarie has it too http://theherbarie.com/Crothix---Conditioning-Thickener-pr-44.htmlI'm using it to give some body to a bath oil, but I would assume since it's used in shampoo that it wouldn't hurt foaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky_CO Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 Sorry Guys Shampoo and I tried Crothix I lost the lather that I needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Salt.. Will look up the info and BRB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Ca ca! The dish is down! Lab Rat posted awesome information about using salt to thicken gels, shampoos, and the like. I can't remember the percentages though.. Anyone got it saved?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 And what percentage did you use the crothix? 1% usually does the trick without hurting the foam.. Or you could up your surfactants a smidge to allow for the crothix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lbtddr Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 i no it would take a very small amount.last time i made some i used salt to thicken it.i used like 1/4 cup in a batch it was to much by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Bunny, if it was in the archives, those are still up and unaffected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Don't have the whole post, but here's a Lab Rat explanation of the salt curve. http://www.soapdisharchives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=45177I can't remember which type of formulas don't work with salt.1% crothix sounds like a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Ahh.. Thanks Carrie! Here's a few helpful links for you Vicky:http://www.soapdisharchives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=59751&hl=http://www.soapdisharchives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=34920&hl=http://www.soapdisharchives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=32627&hl=http://www.soapdisharchives.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=25575&hl=And here's a link to one of my favorite suppliers, maybe something on this page will go with the end product you want to make:http://www.theherbarie.com/Conditioners-&-Thickeners-c-4.htmlBut I think I'd try stearic acid first, as you probably have that in with your candle stuff already! From 1-3% should do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted June 3, 2006 Share Posted June 3, 2006 Robin, this is from MMS under liquid crothix.. "Usage rate is generally 1 to 8% and the final mixture does not need added neutralization just because this thickener is used. Start at 1% and go up from there. We were amazed that so little is needed to actually thicken significantly."And I've been looking for that exact post, but couldn't find it! Am copying it down this time! TY TY TY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky_CO Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Thanks Ladies that gives me a lot to read and a bit to try. I am afraid to add any more surfactants because that I think is what causes the dogs to inch and flake. That I need to prevent at all cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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