sandyrose Posted September 26, 2006 Share Posted September 26, 2006 Not too awful for my very first try. But boy did those bubbles dissappear FAST! What could I try to increase the bubbling and make them last longer? Increase the SLS a little maybe? Below is the recipe I'm using... I made a 4 oz bars and they dried nicely, crumbled nicely.. the bubbles started out with a bang (needed to use the whole 4oz bar to fill the tub with bubbles.. I'm not sure if that's right since I've never actually used bubble bars before) but the foam whimped out too wayyy quickly. :sad:I'm asking cuz you all are so much more experienced than me and I'm gonna be in the poor house with all this experimenting I've been doing. Watcha think?1 cup baking soda1/2 cup corn starch1/3 cup SLS1/2 cup Citric acid4 tbsp Grapeseed oil1 tsp FOmica Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin29 Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Looks like you don't have enough SLS and totally lack glycerin (it helps matain the bubbles...I think)try this: This is the first recipe that I tried, it worked so I just stuck with it. ; )1 cup baking soda1 cup SLS1/3 cup liquid glycerin1/3 Cup Cream of Tartar (or corn starch)Fragrance and colorI'll sometimes add a little grapeseed oil (say, sub three T or so Glycerin for grapeseed oil), and have never tried citric acid myself.I found this recipe online over a year ago, forgot where, but it works well. I do bars that are about 4.5 oz 1/3 bar gives a good bubble bath, 1/2 bar will bubble like crazy. I left water in the tub to see how long they would last once I got out and they were still there hours later. I don't think that I will try a full bar, heh.The bars are dense, and need to be sliced, rather than just breaking a chunk off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyrose Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Thank You Robin! I'll try that.Everyone, remember to wear a mask or something when using SLS. It's so powdery and I'm STILL sounding like I'm gonna cough up a lung. ACK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 For that rolled slice look how do you do it? Do you just roll the bar on the counter and then slice it, leave it to dry? I have been making bubble bombs, but I like that rolled look that lush has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin29 Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 I have not even tried the rolled look, and I have no idea how it would work. My mix is pretty crumbly. That would be a ? for someone who has been at it longer than I have.I just stuff it all into a mold and pop it out,then let it dry a day or so. You could do a swirl look by taking half the mixture, dying it it and *gently* mixing it back in... I have not tried that, either, perhaps the next batch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawyer's moon Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 I plop mine on a piece of waxed paper and roll into a log which I then slice once I feel it's ready. Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawyer's moon Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 And for the swirled....I rolled out two colors and then rolled them together to create a swirly look.Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindsaycb Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Now I've never figured out the consistency for the rolled look...but I'm also jelly roll challenged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sassy-girl Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Instead of Glycerin i used Cocamidopropyl betaine, Works like a charm.Looks like you don't have enough SLS and totally lack glycerin (it helps matain the bubbles...I think)try this: This is the first recipe that I tried, it worked so I just stuck with it. ; )1 cup baking soda1 cup SLS1/3 cup liquid glycerin1/3 Cup Cream of Tartar (or corn starch)Fragrance and colorI'll sometimes add a little grapeseed oil (say, sub three T or so Glycerin for grapeseed oil), and have never tried citric acid myself.I found this recipe online over a year ago, forgot where, but it works well. I do bars that are about 4.5 oz 1/3 bar gives a good bubble bath, 1/2 bar will bubble like crazy. I left water in the tub to see how long they would last once I got out and they were still there hours later. I don't think that I will try a full bar, heh.The bars are dense, and need to be sliced, rather than just breaking a chunk off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I wonder if sodium lactate would work too since it is used a a humectant as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Are you using SLS or SLSa? There is a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I think she is using SLS.Ok, just had to experiment with the sodium lactate idea. Since I did not have any glycerin but a whole lot of SL, I poured in 1/4 cup into my usual recipe. It created just what I have been looking for. I was able to use the wax paper idea and roll some out, and then cut into 1.5 inch puffs. I will post pics later, but looks like I found something that works for me! Off to Home Depot to find some PVC pipes and a dowel so I dont have to roll them, just stuff into the pipe, push out, and slice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I posted pictures of the bubble bars in the picture area, please come by and let me know what you think:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin29 Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Whatever you do, don't tell them that you want a PVC pipe and dowel so you can make bath bombs. I did this yesterday at LOWS and from the reaction I got, I am expecting the ATF to kick my door in any minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 :laugh2:Note taken!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spatreats4u Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 ok so i make bubble bars too but i cant use a recipe w/ glycerin...they never dry...whats up w/ that????? I dont even use 1/3 of a cupgood lord it might be bubble goo then:rolleyes2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darci Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 The bars are dense, and need to be sliced, rather than just breaking a chunk off.I wonder - if you scored it, could you break off a chunk when ready to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin29 Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 SPATREATS: I never had a problem, in fact my bars are quite dense.DARCI: I might try to score them and see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin29 Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 CARRIE: What is the difference between the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyrose Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 I did it! They're perfect! Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin29 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Sandy: How wonderful!! I am glad they worked out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyrose Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 I'm taking so many bubble baths it's crazy. LOL! The batch I made was "Desert Pear" (a mixture of NGstrawberry and NG melon Mist) Smells just like the Pricky pear margaritas I had in Arizona! YUMMO!The only problem was I used a Leaf green mica. I wanted a mottled look so I mixed half non colored and half green. The green spots might look like mold to some people.. But I'm not selling these.. they're for me. I'm still just in the testing stages. I wont use this green again.But thanks so much for your help! I can't wait to make more with more colors & scents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 CARRIE: What is the difference between the two?Here is an article on SLS. http://www.healthy-communications.com/slsmostdangerousirritant.html I found that searching the archives. The article seems a little over the edge but who knows. It does warrant more research. I've added SLSa to sugar scrub and came out with a product that doesn't bubble but is more lotiony feeling and almost foamy when applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyrose Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 I've seen the SLS warnings but I've also come across a lot of articles saying that it's safe and calling it just 'internet rumors' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin29 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Carrie: Have you seen this? http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/shampoo.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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