DonnaPatrick Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Tart Addict, what are you making your 1/3 roller bottles with? I saw a recipe that said to use 50% Cyclomethicone, 48% Fractionated Coconut Oil & 1%-2% FO. I'm wondering how you'd do the math? Half of 1/3 would be 1/6th, but what would 1% of 1/3 be? & how would you measure by weight, on a scale, such a small amount? If anyone makes these, can you tell me what you do? Do you weigh the Cyc&FCO and do the FO in droplets? and how many? I once read somewhere that someone just does it by sight & fills 1/2 the bottle with one, the other 1/2 with the other & then adds fo, but how much fo? Thanks. I'm very interested in these roller bottle ideas for body scent. Thanks you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 By working in percentages, this method allows you to make as much or as little as you want. Here's the breakdown.50% Cyclo48% FCO2% FOSo, If I want to make 16 ounces of spray, I'll move the decimal point over two notches to the left, and mutiply by 16. So it'll look like this:.50 cyclo x 16 = 8 oz.48 FCO x 16 = 7.68 oz.02 fo x 16 = .32 ozIf you want to make 135 ounces, just take out the 16, and mutiply by 135. This way, you can make the exact same recipe whether you need 2 oz or 2000 oz of finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaPatrick Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share Posted November 8, 2006 bunny, thanks so much. I think I'm cool on making 16 oz,& then pouring that batch into rollers. But what about just making one 1/3 ozRoller instead? thanks again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Well, 1/3 oz is .33 ounces.So you would take .0033 and mutiply it by the percentages give. Granted, you'd have to have a super accurate scale, but it will work!You could also take those small number, and find an online conversion calculator and do it in milliliters for the cyclo and fco, and convert to drops for the fo. HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamp_deb Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 MMS has a converter so you can use grams for small amounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiansun Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I do it the lazy way. I do 1 roller at a time with a pippette. For my Monoi roll ons I do 1/2 - 1/2. (fco/monoi) no cyclo. For my other roll ons, I do 1/3 cyclo, then fco till it's just below the neck line, then I add about 8 drops of fo, if that isn't enough I add more. (I always do 1 tester) If 8 drops work, I fill the rest of the way with cyclo. Shake shake shake. I don't believe there is a set amount of fo that you should use. I want the scent to last, so I do it to my taste. I use more fco in the rollers cause I like the properties in it. But that's just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnaPatrick Posted November 8, 2006 Author Share Posted November 8, 2006 I do it the lazy way. I do 1 roller at a time with a pippette. For my Monoi roll ons I do 1/2 - 1/2. (fco/monoi) no cyclo. For my other roll ons, I do 1/3 cyclo, then fco till it's just below the neck line, then I add about 8 drops of fo, if that isn't enough I add more. (I always do 1 tester) If 8 drops work, I fill the rest of the way with cyclo. Shake shake shake. I don't believe there is a set amount of fo that you should use. I want the scent to last, so I do it to my taste.I use more fco in the rollers cause I like the properties in it. But that's just me. Yes, but your "lazy way" is in portions I can understand!!! My scale would never be able to weigh out the different portions involved in breaking down for just one single 1/3 oz roller. So basically, you are doing 1/3 cyclo, almost 2/3 fcl & 8 drops FO. I will try that.Thank you very much:grin2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scentsme Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I have bought finished products, from etailers, who made body roll ons in 1/3 oz roller bottles. They are made with cyclo & FO & when the bottle is sitting on the shelf, I can see that with certain FO's it doesn't stay mixed & I can see the actual separation & it looks like there is ALOT MORE THAN 8 drops of FO in there. Does anyone have a sure fire "formula". I've given up on trying to make individual bottles of scent & have only been making 8 oz sizes & pouring them into bottles. I have had requests for individual bottles of one scent at a time, sometimes a few different ones at a time & I have had to decline & only offer the ones I've made bigger batches of. I would love to have a formula to do just one at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Does anyone have a sure fire "formula". Each fragrance requires it's own testing. There is no "sure fire" fomula. There are no shortcuts in the testing process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scentsme Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Each fragrance requires it's own testing. There is no "sure fire" fomula. There are no shortcuts in the testing processI guess I knew the answer to that one already! I guess that's why I decline to make the smaller ones. Oh well. Thanks anyhow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiansun Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Carrie is right no sure fire formula. That's why I always do a tester for each scent. Certain fos just won't work and people have different well not taste buds LMAO hmm scent buds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TartAddict Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Hey I'm just making the Lava Lip Gloss (recipe off of the BCN website using glycerin, castor oil, flavor oil, and food coloring), no perfumes or anything. And as for math...you should check the post I did yesterday in the Candle section...it's regarding how mathematically challenged I am, LOL Hope you got your question answered. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shisha Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 I sell hundreds of these things (altho I use jojoba oil, don't like cyclo) and believe me, the amounts are different for each FO. I need just a couple of drops of Pink Sugar (I use SW) to scent the whole .33 oz bottle, but I need a heck of a lot more than that for a lot of other fragrances. You have to test it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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