Tizimarezie Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I'm using EZsoy. Heated to 180º to add FO, cooled to "slushy" (about 95º) to pour. Test burned the candle for 3 hours and blew it out. As the wax cooled and became solid again, sink holes developed. What would cause that? I read that pouring too hot would cause air bubbles and sink holes so I made sure that the wax looked slushy applesauce before pouring so I'm not sure why this is happening. It sure makes for an ugly candle Any suggestions as to how to avoid these sink holes?TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 It could be air bubbles or it could just be the soy and the bumpy tops it will sometimes set up with. Can you post a picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I have that problem with EZ as well, I chalked it up to the fact that it is soy and may develope an "ugly" top especially after the first couple burns. I read somewhere that one thing you can try, and I have not tried this yet is to after you pour tap the glass jar with a wooden spoon to try to get any bubbles (they may be very tiny) to rise up and out. I will actually be giving that a try tonight. Another thing I read (on this board I think) is to not stir again after adding the FO before you let it cool. Give it a final stir then don't stir again, which supposedly will help not create more bubbles. I did try that and still had the problem after the first few burns but it was better.Let me know if those help in anyway. I will definetely keep my eye on this thread, because if there is a solution for this I'd love to hear it as well.~~Kelly~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I use EZ Soy and get ugly tops after the first or second burn. On any burns after that the tops remain smooth. I just chalk it up to the nature of pure soy. No one has complained to me about it so I don't worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizimarezie Posted November 21, 2006 Author Share Posted November 21, 2006 Here's a photo of the sink hole (below). I have another theory and will give it a test today. This candle was sitting near an open door last night when I blew it out. I'll move it to a cozy-warm part of the kitchen when it blow it out tonight and see if the rate of cooling has anything to do with sink holes. What's your opinion on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Yup, that's exactly what I get too. I'm going to give my previous suggestions a try tonight and if it doesn't help, I think I'll just let it go, because it is the nature of soy as Bev stated.~~Kelly~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carriegsxr6 Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Its just a soy thing. The reason you can prevent these tops when you initially pour and cool them, is because you are controlling the temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaybee23 Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Adding beeswax at a small percentage also helps with that. I don't have them at all or as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Add 1-3% bw but you can go as high as 5%. Usually though, 5% and higher will require you to wick up and can cause cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junebug Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I also add BW and have less issues with soy. However I am learning to not add any color. Less issues with added dye too.:highfive: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizimarezie Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Less issues with added dye too.:highfive:I'm learning that, as well. I changed the dye color of one candle I was making because, with a specific color, I had gone through ECO's, CD's, RRD's and HTP's and STILL couldn't get the darn thing wicked. Changed dye color and it wicked perfectly on the first try.Thanks for the info on the BW. I notice it comes in solid block so what's the procedure for adding? Cut off a piece, melt separately from soy wax, measure and add? Add when?...and a specific temp?TIA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryk Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Those USA products prevent this too - and you can say that they are all soy - because I believe the USA is a soy derivative if I'm not mistaken (someone will correct me if I'm wrong - but I think I've read that on this board - think it was Top that said that). I've learned that it won't stop the frost totally in a dark candle after the melt pool sets up, and if you use the max amount it really causes the wax to pull away from the container. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryk Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I notice it comes in solid block so what's the procedure for adding? Cut off a piece, melt separately from soy wax, measure and add? Add when?...and a specific temp?TIAGet the pellet variety - don't mess with the blocks. No, you don't have to add separately - just measure it out and add with your soy and melt it. Your soy will need to go up to around 175 anyway for the FO and BW melts at around 145.EDIT: Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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