Kelly Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Ok, last night my EZ soy candles looked great, then when I woke up this morning, they had graining white crystally bubbly looking patches along the sides of the 8oz JJ! Is there anyway I can remove this without remelting and repouring? And will doing that even help?I was thinking about taking a heat gun to the sides of the jar, but I don't know if that will help. These are thanksgiving gifts that I need ready ASAP.It seems like when I pour hot I don't get this problem, but yesterday I poured at 100-105 and it's worse than ever. I'd rather not remelt and repour because I lose scent.Please please please help! I wish I could send a picture, but I'm at work. Hopefully someone will know what I'm describing!TIA~Kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Embrace it as a characteristic of 100% soy. Heat gunning it won't help and may make it worse.There is a product called frostop that is supposed to help with that, but apparently it will not be available again until October 2007. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Well crap crap crap. I can handle the frosting on the tops but on the sides like this just looks horrible. One of the candles is a dark brown color, FO Hot Chocolate, I'll just say its the marshmellows in the Hot Chocolate.Thank you for your quick response I just wish it would have been better news. I'll just get one of those cardboard things they put around coffee at starbucks so you don't burn your hand to cover it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Step away from the heat gun!!! It WILL make it worse. It's a soy thing... I'm thinking that frosted jars were MADE for soy! lol...-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Step away from the heat gun!!! It WILL make it worse. It's a soy thing... I'm thinking that frosted jars were MADE for soy! lol...-KristiLOL, you guys don't fully understand the whole situation though. It's for my mom, she's going to be all 'why the hell does it look like this' and then make a face at me. And explaining the nature of soy to her isn't going to help, she isn't going to care about the nature of soy.Also I don't think it can get worse it covers almost the sides completely. On the bright side, the top looks great!I wonder if it's because I used liquid dyes for that candle?Anyone have tips on reducing the likelyhood of frosting? If you had tips on eliminating, you'd be a millionare.Should I remelt the candle and try again or just let it go? *Sniff*:undecided ~~Kelly~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggedy Dani Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 If you remelt it....chances are....you'll have same results.unless you have beewax. it helps smooth it out and have litte less frosting.but once burned, it'll have frosting again....it's just that nature.hthDani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowded House Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 It's for my mom, she's going to be all 'why the hell does it look like this' and then make a face at me. And explaining the nature of soy to her isn't going to help, she isn't going to care about the nature of soy.Just reply with a straight face, "It's frosted for the Christmas Season! You know, like sipping hot chocolate by a frosty window on a cold winter morning! Doesn't it look cool?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debscent Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I would so play it off as the "newest trend" in candle making, she won't know the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Just reply with a straight face, "It's frosted for the Christmas Season! You know, like sipping hot chocolate by a frosty window on a cold winter morning! Doesn't it look cool?" Yeah yeah, that could work, 'Duh mom it's supposed to look like that! Do you have any idea how hard it was for me to get it too look like that!? Geez mom!!' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 AH-HA! Looky what I found in my EZ Soy Instructions! The liquid dye I used in this candle could be the problem. Great I wasted $20.00 buying liquid dyes. On the bright side: I get to place another ordre for some block dyes (my perfered dyes - too bad I can't achieve the bright colors with the blocks)~ Dyes: We recommend Dye Chips or Dye Flakes, or our Pro Powders™ for best results and less frosting in soy waxes. Some Liquid Dyes contain solvents that can increase frosting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsbennis Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Go Colorless...problem solved! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logcabinmomma Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Go Colorless...problem solved! Oh, you are SO tempting me. I used to love color. Then I switched to soy. Grrr......-Kristi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 Go Colorless...problem solved! Boyfriend says I can't. And I quote, "People aren’t going to want all white candles." He likes the frosted look, but the again he knows that is the nature of soy, he says he likes the look of it. I almost wish I would have started out with Cargil instead of the EZ, but now i've put so much money into the EZ, I don't want to start over. Seems like from what I read here that EZ frosts the most of all the soys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 AH-HA! Looky what I found in my EZ Soy Instructions! The liquid dye I used in this candle could be the problem. Great I wasted $20.00 buying liquid dyes. On the bright side: I get to place another ordre for some block dyes (my perfered dyes - too bad I can't achieve the bright colors with the blocks) Blocks were not any better then the liquid dyes. IMOEZ soy was a froster no matter what temp I poured, or dye I used.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 EZ is a froster but I've never heard one person complain to me about the way the candles look. You are probably more worried about it than your mother would be.I had some Southern Pecan Pie candles that I poured once. They frosted in such a strange way ... almost in stripes. It almost looked like I had poured layered candles. I was mortified, but people loved them and thought I did something special to make them look that way. Of course, I'll probably never be able to duplicate that look again!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnygirl Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 The beeswax can help some with the frosting. There are also some liquid dyes that are made for soy. They are called EVO dyes, and they are supposed to help w/frosting too, although I havent used them yet so I cant say for sure if it works. Now, about the all white candles. Many people perfer them, as they dont have to worry about the candles color clashing with their decor. What I do to add that little bit of color to livin them up, is I use clear labels. I have a square frame that borders my label, and depending on the scent, I color that frame to match it. For example, Apple Jack & Peel I use a red border, Vanilla Lavender gets a Lavender border, etc... I am a weird person and dont mind the frost that appears on colored soy. Many people assume it is intentional, like a rustic thing. But, I make all my soy candles without dye unless they request color.I think I read that someone else was marketing there all soy candles w/color as "little frosties". Sounds cute and wintery to me, LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 EZ is a froster but I've never heard one person complain to me about the way the candles look. You are probably more worried about it than your mother would be.I'm so obsessed with them being perfect you have no idea. Even the ones for myself. I just fear the majority of people don't know what soy wax is, the nature of it, and will be turned off by the look of it. Of course I'm basing that on nothing.Oh and who suggested the EVO dyes? Yeah that's what I need to do, spend more money!! LOL I guess that's why your name is "Funny"girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funnygirl Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 ROFLMAO!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lsbennis Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 lol...welcome to candle making...in my opinion one of the most expensive hobbies I can think of, be prepared to spend a few dollars to make a good candle. I just switched to making all white 100% soy candles in tumblers to save myself from the headaches of color, so now if it frost you will never know I also did something that I thought I would never do but I started working with GL 70/30 for all my color candles, so far it has been a pleasure and makes a great looking and smelling candle and still have 70% Soy and great colors :smiley2: BTW Ecosoya CB Advanced is the only soy I know that will resist most frosting and acts like a blend...but you do loose some scent throw. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geekrunner Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I've found something that works, but it is not very practical and would end up driving up your electicity bill, unless you poured a bunch of candles at a time.If you pour hot, like right after thoroughly stirring in your FO, then place the candle in an oven that was pre-heated to about 125-150, and turn off the heat. Letting the candle cool very slowly like that always turned out great looking candles for me, but it was too much work. I was going to do just uncolored but I get too many requests for colored ones, so I'm explaining away what frosting I do get, which isn't that much.geek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everito Bandito Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Market it...I once saw a website that marketed their mushooming wicks as the magic mushrooming scent tree or some such jazz as that...LOL...Maybe you could call your's the magic soy frosty scent veins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted November 22, 2006 Author Share Posted November 22, 2006 You know when you look up in the sky at night on a really clear night and all you see are white dots all different sizes? That's what my candles look like, some galaxies, some commets, and some stars. The name I was going with for my candles has the word "star" in it. I could totally use that. My candles have stars in them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I like the idea of calling them "little frosties" !!!! :highfive: Or "Twinkles" !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgirl Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 You know when you look up in the sky at night on a really clear night and all you see are white dots all different sizes? That's what my candles look like, some galaxies, some commets, and some stars. The name I was going with for my candles has the word "star" in it. I could totally use that. My candles have stars in them!Great marketing idea!!! :highfive: You could call you company - STAR-BURST SOY CANDLES..Then... Just a thought....What if the candles you make stop frosting.. (You know how some frost in batches and some don't) Then what??? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debscent Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 Great marketing idea!!! :highfive: You could call you company - STAR-BURST SOY CANDLES..Then... Just a thought....What if the candles you make stop frosting.. (You know how some frost in batches and some don't) Then what??? LOLSay it's because of El Nino. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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