CareBear Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I am getting more golden shea (kapangan? pain-ya?) and want to know if anyone has soaped with it, and what it contributes to soap1 Also, how would you enter it in the calculator - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNK Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I haven't soaped with it, but i have a bar i received from the swap. The lady who made it used 20% of golden shea, and the bar is absolutely wonderful! it is so creamy, that I feel like i'm rubbing the lotion over my body when i use it. I don't know if it was golden shea by itself, or combined with goat's milk, but that stuff rocks! i'm buying 10 lbs of it! I don't know what SAP value for it, need to research some more. I just assumed it was the same as regular shea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I've used it, and it does seem to provide a creamier bar, although I don't know if I'm just imagining that or not. I just enter it as shea butter (which is what it is) on the calc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cindym Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I think I read on the AK site that the golden shea has more unsaponfiables, sp. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNK Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I think I read on the AK site that the golden shea has more unsaponfiables, sp. Check it out.no, they actually say it has less unsaponifiables (which is funny, we get confused because everyone always lists only best things about the product, and if it has less of something, we just don't say anything. i was confused too, had to go back and look.here is a quote:"While this butter is popular because of its bright yellow color, its unsaponifiable value is not as high as that of shea butter."so technically soaping with it is not as beneficial as with regular shea... but i don't care what they say, i'll soap with it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted December 9, 2006 Author Share Posted December 9, 2006 Anyone have a recipe they've tried? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsyjen Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I'd use the SAP for shea butter, but increase your superfat by 1%. I haven't been able to find a SAP value for it, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Funny, I have always thought that golden shea was the same as other shea, just different colors, so I am a bit confuzzled about AK's claims. Being from West Africa I have seen the stuff produced first hand, and its the same process, often fallen from the same tree. Some of the shea nuts produce a different color butter which is due to the shea nut's maturity compared to other nuts that are older. The color can also be affected by the time of harvest, or the region where the nuts come from. But coming off the same trees, they should have the same properties....wouldn't you think?I have soaped with both, and I soap with Nilotica shea too and I dont notice any differences in any of them, except that my golden shea soaps will darken over time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNK Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Funny, I have always thought that golden shea was the same as other shea, just different colors, so I am a bit confuzzled about AK's claims. Being from West Africa I have seen the stuff produced first hand, and its the same process, often fallen from the same tree. Some of the shea nuts produce a different color butter which is due to the shea nut's maturity compared to other nuts that are older. The color can also be affected by the time of harvest, or the region where the nuts come from. But coming off the same trees, they should have the same properties....wouldn't you think?according to Akbanga Karite, Golden shea doesn't come from the same trees. I'm copying from their site again "In fact, the African Butter Tree is a completely different species of tree that grows along the rivers in central Togo. Shea trees grow in the open savanna. In contrast, African Butter trees grown in the dense gallery forests along the rivers and streams where water is abundant. Kpangnan is the local name in central Togo for this butter, which is used for traditional skin care."so i guess the difference is in amount of water the trees get. go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecandlespastore Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Interesting:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 It says it's an entirely different species of tree. They look different and feel different, I tend to beleive they are different. Shea is soft and gooey, the GS is harder and brittle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted December 9, 2006 Author Share Posted December 9, 2006 Yea, me too. But I've gotten golden shea from someone else that was a lot more like regular shea - very sticky, but bright yellow. It is from www.soapersupplies.com and the label reads :Shea Butter, Unrefined GoldenINCI: Butyrospermum Parkii (which is the same name as AK's regular unrfined I think - right?)I just rubbed some on my hands and it's definately more like regular unrefined shea.NOT THE SAME as what is in the co-op at all (I have some of that too). I don't think it's a matter of water either. But what do I know?!? Different animal altogether. And fabulous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Girl Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 I soaped the co-op golden shea this week in salt bars. It rocks. I like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted December 9, 2006 Author Share Posted December 9, 2006 what does it do for soaps? very very curious.oh, and your salt bars rock! you are the one who got me addicted to THOSE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonne Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 I've been searching under "kpangan" and "PENTADESMA BUTYRACEA " and I can't find a SAP value for it anywhere. :undecided Anyone else have any luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrie Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 I've been searching under "kpangan" and "PENTADESMA BUTYRACEA " and I can't find a SAP value for it anywhere. :undecided Anyone else have any luck?I'm calling AK to order the GS tomorrow AM, I'll ask if they have a SAP value for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesequeen Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 According to the Soapmaker program, the sap is 136. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonne Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 :highfive: :highfive: :highfive: Awesome! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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