topofmurrayhill Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Assuming two recipes with similar characteristics, does anyone feel that there's an advantage to using a combination of coconut and palm kernel oils versus a larger amount of coconut oil alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinInOR Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I started with using just coconut, since I can get it locally. But to get the lather I wanted in our hard water, I tried a combo, and it worked in my recipe better than having one or the other. I don't like high coconut, and PKO by itself made my formula too brittle. Since I finalized my formula using both, I just keep on using both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morganst Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 Also, I find too much CO tends to be drying on the skin. I use a combo of CO, PO & PKO (ratio of 2:1:1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted June 19, 2007 Author Share Posted June 19, 2007 Thank you both for the feedback.Here are two recipes for example only, with qualities according to SoapCalc. Am I correct that you would consider #2 preferable to #1?Recipe #1 - 30% Coconut, 70% OliveHardness 34Cleansing 20Condition 61Bubbly 20Creamy 14Iodine 60INS 154Recipe #2 - 15% Coconut, 17% PKO, 68% OliveHardness 34Cleansing 20Condition 61Bubbly 20Creamy 14Iodine 61INS 144 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I also use a combo of PO (10%), PKO (10%) and CO (15%) in most of my recipes. I find most soaps over 15% CO to be drying - with the exception of a salt bar. I myself would prefer you #2 recipe for that reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 The differences I see in my two recipes, aside from the water issues, hardness of bar. The way my recipes are they tend to lather how I want them. The pko/co recipe is probably the hardest bar I make, even with the co/lard combo and using different sap values for the coconut. Personally on your recipe lists I don't make bars under a 38 hardness. It just takes them too long to set up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapmaker Man Posted June 19, 2007 Share Posted June 19, 2007 I'm with Scented...I keep my recipes around the 45 hardness area. I use @16 to 17% CO and 11 to 12% PKO. I also use tallow and lard in every batch with a little cocoa butter (5% or so) with my soft oils of RBO, Canola, HO sunflower and castor. My recipe using a 33% lye solution, usually come in between a 43 to 47 hardness.Paul.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I like both. Too much CCO can be drying, as others have said. I found the combo to be the best on my skin, great lather, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crafty1_AJ Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Even though I have dry skin, I can tolerate coconut up to 30% without problems. So in the interest of keeping things simple, I just use one or the other (coconut OR pko) -- and usually coconut.I get burned out on 29 oils in a single recipe when I can get soap that's just as great with maybe 3-4 ingredients. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carriegsxr6 Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 personally if I add PKO, I will use it at 10% with coconut at 20%. If I just use coconut oil alone, I will use it at 25%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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