bunkie68 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I tried my hand at bubble bars, finally. I used this recipe http://www.candletech.com/cgi-local/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=bbrecipes;action=display;num=1099939492 and used Red Velvet Cake as my FO. They set up pretty well - not super hard, but firm enough not to fall apart when you pick them up, and still easy to crumble - but they turned brown. ??? I know vanilla scents turn brown, so I thought maybe the RVC had some vanilla component in it. I made another batch using Dark Chocolate Solstice as the FO, and again, they turned brown. ??? I know the bubble bars I buy from other e-tailers aren't brown - is it the FO I'm using doing it, do you think? Or something I just haven't thought of? Is there anything I can add to keep them from turning brown? I might like to experiment with colors at some point, but that won't do any good if they turn brown. Any help, thoughts, etc., is greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 weeel, chocolate contains a good hit of vanilla so that might not have been your best choice as a double check! Both are in the Scent Review Board as turning brown in soap - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunkie68 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 I wondered if that might have been it, or if there was just something inherent in the recipe (without the FO) that made it do that. I'll make another batch and try the most non-foody scent I can think of and see what happens - Pink Grapefruit and Sugar Cane should be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Check the Scent Review Board for soaping issues - if it discolors in soap it may in your bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunkie68 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 I'll do that - thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradelrae Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 yep its the vanilla...ask me how i know.....arg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunkie68 Posted October 1, 2007 Author Share Posted October 1, 2007 Cara, I'm guessing you know from personal experience. So what scents have you used that haven't turned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradelrae Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 Lets see. Off hand I could tell u more about the ones that did turn brown. LOLLets see, as for some that didnt.... Lemon Sugar from FOH, Backwards Blue, Carnival Crush from DS. I could list a dozen but...What other fos are u considering using? Maybe if I (we) know what fos you are planning on using, we can let you know better!PM me if u want!Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsngarden Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I'd bet sugar cane has a heavy dose of vanilla - you can almost always tell if there's "sugar" in the title!Bethany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirloomoriginals Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 I have had the RVC turn in my wax, that was before I got UV stabilizer, but haven't tried it with that FO.Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunkie68 Posted October 3, 2007 Author Share Posted October 3, 2007 I haven't yet decided what FO I might try - seems like the ones I have a lot of are all foody and likely to have vanilla notes! And I checked the description of PG&SC, and it does indeed mention "a touch of vanilla". :undecided So if anything with vanilla discolors this badly, how do people make bubble bars in scents like, say, lavender vanilla, and have them not be doo-doo brown? Is there something comparable to UV stabilizer for bath and body products? (I'm thinking the UV stabilizer is just for candles, right?) All the scents I like and want to make bubble bars in seem to have that darned vanilla, and I don't think brown will be a real big seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsngarden Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 I sell brown soap all the time - vanilla, dragons blood, monkey farts, Cedar Saffron, Autumn Apple, they all discolor. about four of those are top sellars for me. Some I do keep out part before adding the FO and either leave it natural or add color for the swirl, but some are just solid and people still love them - while people do love a pretty bar (and some brown bars a VERY lovely!) it's really the scent that seals the deal. You never know...Bethany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunkie68 Posted October 4, 2007 Author Share Posted October 4, 2007 Bethany, you could be right. I got good reviews from someone who'd tested my Red Velvet Cake bubble bars, nary a mention of the color. My boyfriend, however, tested the Dark Chocolate Solstice and said the bubbles were great, but it turned the water a really nasty shade. So you're right, you never know. I like the recipe I used with the RVC better - maybe that one doesn't turn the water as badly. I'll just mix 'em up and see if they sell. I just can't figure how I see other e-tailers making all kinds of scents that are pretty colors, that don't turn brown even with vanilla in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Di Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 I made 3 different bubble bars... Jamaica Me Crazy (look great), Cool Citrus Basil (sparkling white) and Coconut Lime (brown spots all through the white parts). I knew that vanilla and coconut turned soap brown, but I didn't know it would do this in other products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunkie68 Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 Someone mentioned an additive that helps keep vanilla scents from discoloring. ??? Anyone have any idea what exactly this might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradelrae Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Most stablizers I have seen are for M&P soap only. If i find anything different, Ill let u know!Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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