Michi Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Or any recipe that has the oils that I have here, cuz I'm itchin' to soap, but all the recipes I have here require an ingredient I don't have dang it. Ok here's what I have:Coconut Oil 76Palm OilCastorabout 8oz. of BabassuMango buttershea butterCanola Oilteeny bit of olive (maybe 6oz.)Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Coconut 20%Palm 15%Babassu 10%Shea 5%Mango Butter 5%Canola 20%Olive 20%Castor 5%I ran this thru the soapcalc and it looks good. Do you have 6.4 ounces of Olive? I did a 2 lb recipe.Barb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I was gonna help ya and then had a power outage ... tells me not to try lol! Mind you I've used Canola once or twice and ditched it because it doesn't like me, but was thinking of just telling you to go to the store and get more oil lol! (Runs and hides)You could go:25% Cocobutt5% babassu7% shea7% mango10% palm 10% castor15% olive21% canola (I think I actually had the canola higher)The hardness at 39 isn't one of my favorite numbers,but the 57 on conditioning was a good one; 20 cleansing; 29 bubbly 29 creamy; 146 INS; 60 iodine Just swap out the cocobutt for cherry kernel oil's value (lye only, but still use cocobutt) and maybe up the super fat to 7 or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 coconut 30%canola 22palm 18olive 30It's a nice basic recipe - you can boost the hardness with some cocoa butter. Hardness 40Cleansing 20Conditioning 55Bubbly 20Creamy 20Iodine 59INS 152 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michi Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Yah, I guess I could go to the store for more OO, but I wanted to try soaping without it (or very little) since every single recipe I've made has had it in there. Also, I don't have any cocoa butter. I'm basically out of everything except palm, shea, mango and CO, since I had planned to order a lot more oils and butters in the coop but my order kinda got messed up, so I didn't get to order everything I wanted then, and haven't gotten around to ordering , since I'm kinda on the fence about ordering from Soapers choice after his switch n bait within the coop. :/Oh I DO have lard- if that helps. ??For some reason, I have a hard time figuring out what goes good with what. I've tried a few times and can never get good numbers on the soap calc. And even when I've gotten "ok" numbers, my soap has been so dang soft, I can't cut it for better than a week! :/I MAY be able to squeak out 6.4 oz of OO for the recipe you posted Barb-thanks! Thanks to you Scented and Carebear also- I knew someone would understand my soap itch that just needs to be scratched TONIGHT! LoL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Olive 20%Coconut 20%Lard 15%Palm 15%Babassu 5%Shea 5%Mango Butter 5%Canola 10%Castor 5%Hardness 42Cleansing 17Conditioning 54Bubbly 22Creamy 30Iodine 56INS 151The 20% OO is based on you either doing a small enough batch to do 20% OO or you getting more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Well lard brightens that picture lol! I like the hardness in Meridith's recipe. I hear ya about soaping with lard and having to wait a while to cut. On average about three days here if I don't add a little sodium lactate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Repeat after me: Soapcalc is brain-dead. Sitting around trying to make numbers click over a few points one way or another is a waste of time. Plus sometimes it encourages people to make melty muck instead of soap.You have everything you need. Why not have some fun with your butters? Never mind luxury; they can be handy just for the stearic content. Try this:Coconut Oil 15.0%Babassu Oil 10.0%Palm Oil 30.0%Mango Butter 10.0%Shea Butter 10.0%Canola Oil 20.0%Castor Oil 5.0%This could be also be tried with the lard or a palm/lard combo. If you must have the numbers , they are:Hardness 46Cleansing 17Conditioning meaninglessBubbly 22Creamy 34Iodine 53INS 155It's important to get a good gel for this recipe. Don't discount the water too much, soap on the cool side and keep things simple to make sure you aren't too rushed. Cut within 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-GRAN-ONES Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Top what calc do you use to help formulate your recipes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Top what calc do you use to help formulate your recipes?I use an Excel spreadsheet. Mostly, the SAP values are from the Columbus Foods list and the fatty acid profiles are from the SoapCalc database. It also duplicates the "soap qualities" from SoapCalc. The numbers are identical except sometimes for INS. SoapCalc uses "traditional" INS values for some oils and calculated values for others. This can cause weirdness when you use certain oils, like Babassu for instance. This recipe probably shows a slightly different INS in SoapCalc than the one I posted, because I use calculated INS values for all the oils. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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