Bird Mom Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I am looking for a place to buy pure unscented soy candles with cotton wicks. I'm interested mostly in container and pillar candles. We live with a couple of parrots and the fumes from burning paraffin or wicks with lead in them can kill a bird as they have very sensitive respiratory systems.I know there are soy candles all of the internet and in some stores but I don't know how to make certain the soy wax (or candles themselves) aren't imported from China. I would like to buy candles that have ingredients from and are poured in the U.S.I just gave up on candles for years but really miss having them. Can anyone here recommend a source to buy them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsmejeffd Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 the fumes from burning paraffinMYTH started by soy wax advocates to try to make paraffin look bad.or wicks with lead in them can kill a birdGood luck finding a wick anywhere that's still made with lead. They've been banned for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueen Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Why not just pour your own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Mom Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 Why not just pour your own?I could probably do that, but I was hoping to find someone who was making them for sale. I also know other bird owners that are looking for soy candles as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Mom Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 MYTH started by soy wax advocates to try to make paraffin look bad.And by avian vets, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatinDucky Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 MYTH started by soy wax advocates to try to make paraffin look bad.And by avian vets, no doubt.Have the vets tested UNSCENTED paraffin candles for toxic fumes?I have no knowledge of birds, I'm just curious... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Mom Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 I've read on several bird forums that people have had birds die after burning paraffin candles in the room where the birds were. It could have been the scent in the candle that killed them or something else. You can Google the subject and come up with all kinds of articles. I suppose it could be untrue but I'm not willing to take the chance. But since paraffin is a petroleum based product I think I'd rather use soy candles anyway. Maybe I should read up here and pour them myself. But these things always lead to needing a lot of supplies and I'm a great "starter" of projects that seem to get half done and then I lose interest or can't find the time. I have a whole closet full of half-done projects. I think I like buying all the supplies more than I do actually following through. *sigh* Doesn't anyone here that makes soy candles sell them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luinousglow Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 We make soy candles and sell them. Where are you located at? You could always order off the internet as well. Good Luck in your search and there are many places where I am sure you can find soy candles. Even some of the local stores are now carrying them.BelindaLuminous Glow Candleswww.luminousglowcandle.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicky_CO Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 With birds it not what the candle is made as far as the wax. Birds do not handle fragrance well either in fragrance oil or essential oil.What most likely caused the birds the most problem is zinc wicks. Birds have no way of getting rid of it and it builds up in their systems and becomes toxic.The best advice for bird people is just do not burn candles in the same room as the birds and keep your fragrance level low in other products.I can and will make you unscented soy candles with cotton wicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.S. Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 I would do this for you as well. I can't tell from your profile where you live. Obviously it would make sense to order from someone who lives close to you to avoid shipping costs. and someone here HAS to live close to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Mom Posted April 15, 2008 Author Share Posted April 15, 2008 I'm in California. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kigers24 Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I also live with a parrot (Green Wing Macaw) and make and sale soy blend (70% soy and 30% paraffin) and also soy candles.I have had him 17 years and he lives in a house where candles are burned all day long and I make them in my kitchen (he is in another room when I am pouring) but I do bring him into rooms where candles are burning. These are all scented candles. His cage is in a separate bedroom that I don't burn candles in but he is out in the rest of the house on his play-stand during the day.Never been sick or even had a cold. Maybe I have just been lucky for the past 17 years but candles have yet to cause him any problems.Did just lose my white dove , I had him for 32 years (doves natural life span is about 9-11 years). Also always around burning scented candles. I work for my vet and he didn't think it was possible for a dove to live that long.Maybe if I hadn't had him around all those candles he would have lived to be 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQueen Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 I've read on several bird forums that people have had birds die after burning paraffin candles in the room where the birds were. It could have been the scent in the candle that killed them or something else. You can Google the subject and come up with all kinds of articles. I suppose it could be untrue but I'm not willing to take the chance. But since paraffin is a petroleum based product I think I'd rather use soy candles anyway. Maybe I should read up here and pour them myself. But these things always lead to needing a lot of supplies and I'm a great "starter" of projects that seem to get half done and then I lose interest or can't find the time. I have a whole closet full of half-done projects. I think I like buying all the supplies more than I do actually following through. *sigh* Doesn't anyone here that makes soy candles sell them?Hey, you can buy MY supplies and I'll make all the stuff! I'd be happy to make candles for you but I'm over on the other side of the continent so it wouldn't be cost-effective. I do have a question, however---what's the point of a candle without fragrance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carriegsxr6 Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Hey, you can buy MY supplies and I'll make all the stuff! I'd be happy to make candles for you but I'm over on the other side of the continent so it wouldn't be cost-effective. I do have a question, however---what's the point of a candle without fragrance? I also enjoy the soft flicker of light that a candle gives off. very soothing and it sets a nice mood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth-VT Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 California's a big state. North (as in North of SF?) So-Cal? Central? There's chandlers here from all points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 what's the point of a candle without fragranceIn a word, light! I prefer candlelight over electric light on my porch and in many areas of my home. The fragrance and color are just lagniappe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Night Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I do have a question, however---what's the point of a candle without fragrance? You shouldn't use a scented candle on a dinning table either. The fragrance can interfere with the aroma and taste of the food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chantelle Posted April 17, 2008 Share Posted April 17, 2008 I use 100% all natural soy way and natural cotton wicks, I do not add any dye to may candles either. I can pour you some without fragrance as well just let me know if I can be of service. I am set up for shipping as well.email me at chantel1631@gotsky.comThanks, ChantelleAroma Du Jour' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Mom Posted May 6, 2008 Author Share Posted May 6, 2008 Thank you for all the responses. I've found some good sources for ordering the unscented soy candles and can always use more for unusual sizes and shapes.I'm getting to the point where I'm buying unscented laundry detergents and other cleaners. I think at some point I get to a "fragrance overload". It's nice to smell fresh air for a change. I love the look of burning candles. It's never really been about the scent. It's more about "romantic lighting" in a room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneeM Posted May 6, 2008 Share Posted May 6, 2008 I think most of us here sell candles. As to "pure soy", I have mixed feelings about this wording but to each their own. We use C3 in ours. Glad you found a source for your candles that you're happy with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so-soy Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Wow, I did not know that burning candles around birds can be bad for them. Learn something new everyday I guess! ReneeM, why do you have mixed feelings about the 'pure soy' wording? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beechcreekcandles Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I'm not so sure that burning candles around birds is actually bad...per se. Our four parakeets, now nearly 9 years old have been around our candles all of their lives....if it was that bad to burn candles around them, I'm sure something would have happened by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debra Phelps Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I heard that at a bird show one time. I made candles in my kitchen for years with my birds on my shoulders. I hadn't heard that at that time. I also had birds in my candle store. BUT, I never lite a candle. It was all the fragrance without a wick. So I am with Vickie on that one. It must be the wick, or the zinc in the wick. I know that I have lite candles in my house with no problem. But they are never close to the birds. Just in the same huge room. I do use the zinc wicks. Carol K on this board would probably be glad to make you some straight soy candles. You might ask for her. I know she is very picky about her product and uses only cotton wicks. I would trust her. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billie Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I had a parrotlet die from a zinc twist tie, didn't know it was made of zinc. I have a macaw and burn candles but not in the same room. but I've known breeders who burn unscented in the same room. They do have sensitive respiratory systems but not as bad as some people believe. I was told not to use fabreeze around any pets and I'm careful about cleaners in the bird room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Mom Posted May 9, 2008 Author Share Posted May 9, 2008 I've learned from other bird owners that it can take a long time for symptoms of damage to a bird's respiratory system to show up. Air sac carcinoma can develop over many years time and it's difficult to know without CT scans that it's there, and even then, if it's too small to see it won't show up. Zinc poisoning also is a cumulative thing. I would rather not take the chance. I do everything I can to protect my pets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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