Jeana Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I just realized I didn't add one of my oils to my soap batch I made yesterday. So far it looks fine, but potentially what can this mean? I've never done this before. The amount left out was 5.46 (13%) out of a 42 ounce recipe. I knew things went too smoothly yesterday:angry2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I'd suppose it would depend on what exact item was left out. When you are baking a cake... you can leave out the pinch of salt and be fine, but if you forget the eggs... :tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carriegsxr6 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 This means you used too much Lye and it is lye heavy. Your soap could cause irritation. Try to rebatch it or chuck it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeana Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Carrie, do I need to add other ingredients to it to make it less lye heavy when I rebatch it? This was my first recipe using transparent soap chunks. How will this work if I rebatch the whole thing since part of the soap will be glycerin and part cp. Does that matter? It turned out so pretty too. I can't believe I screwed it up:cry2:Also is it possible to get a rebatched recipe the consistency that can be poured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carriegsxr6 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 the best way to rebatch is use a turcky roasting bag and boil it in water. This gets the soap hot enough to smooth out for re-pouring. Yes you will have to add the missing amount of oil in order to make it no longer lye heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeana Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 Where do you get turkey roasting bags? It also gets tricky because I took some of the recipe out to make chunks of another color. How would I account for the amount I took out for the chunks? Does that make sense? They are a way different color now so I couldn't throw them back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 They have them in the seasoning section of all supermarkets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tereasa Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 because baking a cake is quite similar to baking soap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Yes, it is... in the way that they both contain ingredients. If vital ones are left out, the recipe will not turn out properly. because baking a cake is quite similar to baking soap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I'd suppose it would depend on what exact item was left out. When you are baking a cake... you can leave out the pinch of salt and be fine, but if you forget the eggs... :tiptoe:You supposed wrong. You can't leave out an ingredient like that in soap or your soap becomes lye heavy which means it will burn your skin. Not good and not a good selling point. Peeps tend to get a bit upset if you scar them for life. Soap and cakes 2 totally different things. Sorry, but you shouldn't give advice if you don't know what you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 CHEESE AND RICE.... It was a metaphor. :tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ring of Fire Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Big oops - no maybe about it. But many of us have done that.If you left out an ingredient you can rebatch and add exactly that ingredient back in. Doesn't matter which oil was left out (it's really not eggs vs baking soda), what matters is that some oil was left out. Rebatch with the missing oil in the exact amount that should have been in there in the first place.Or throw it away and begin again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tereasa Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 CHEESE AND RICE.... It was a metaphor. :tiptoe:please understand... a newbie comes here, reads your post and doesn't have to read any further because as far as that newbie knows, hey... it's all right. It won't occur to a single soul that it's a metaphor. All that newbie hears is 'it's only a pinch of salt'. And then, because us newbies are notorious for having lye-heavy soap anyway, someone gets badly burned. I have to agree with Meredith. Please don't muddy any waters with metaphors when it comes to something dangerous like lye heavy soap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 CHEESE AND RICE.... It was a metaphor. :tiptoe:WTH OS? I would not call that a metaphor. I'd call it giving advice about something you know nothing about - metaphor or not. I'd call it talking out the wrong end. Wrong advice when making soap and B&B items can result in someone getting hurt which can result in a lawsuit. If you want to learn to soap, then great, learn to soap. But until you do, its best to stick to giving advice in areas you have some knowledge about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 :whistle: ummm ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliverOfWax Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Sad, Very sad. And very scary. The same holds true of candles. I simply don't understand the concept of giving advice on something about which nothing is known. Especially, especially in a learning environment. It can take a long time to gain enough experience to be able to give reliable and valid advice, no matter what the subject. When we're dealing with fire and lye, one's time is much better spent learning the craft than it is merely talking about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibiscus Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I'd suppose it would depend on what exact item was left out. When you are baking a cake... you can leave out the pinch of salt and be fine, but if you forget the eggs... :tiptoe:Noooo, see what you've done? You may have confused all the newbies. ....ya know newbies have no common sense and they don't Ahhh wth don't fool around with them! go make some soap so you will know what you're Talking about. Shhhh, If that ain't the blind leading the blind:rolleyes2 You will lead all the noobs into a ditch! 'Cause, I ATS!:tiptoe: :tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverSoyed Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 OK... FINE... WHATEVER....But instead of going on page after page about what I said.... how bout actually giving up your advice to the person that asked for it. JESUS:tiptoe: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SliverOfWax Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 There's a message here. Unfortunately, it seems to be eluding you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGCAT Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Well Sliver, I don't think he is smart enough to get it, I have only read a few of his post, but it's really easy to see that he has no clue and just likes to see his post count go up, and of course LOVES to cry wolf about being bashed, Which is getting old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debscent Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 You are totally right.... post counts is where the money is! I just deposited a huge amount of posts in my bank account today, and the teller was shocked!Why do you act this way? Do you think it's cute or something? You post ALOT about nothing just to stir up crap. You are offering NOTHING to this board except your self-induced drama. You will probably say that I am offering nothing to the original post and you are right BECAUSE I DON'T MAKE SOAP!!! I've been on this board for 4 years now and by far you are in the top 3 most annoying people. Keep striving, you may reach no. 1.Please, just grow up and act like a mature man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eugenia Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Where do you get turkey roasting bags? It also gets tricky because I took some of the recipe out to make chunks of another color. How would I account for the amount I took out for the chunks? Does that make sense? They are a way different color now so I couldn't throw them back in.Not sure what you mean. Did you simply re-size the recipe to allow room for the chunks? That would be the correct way. How would you get the chunks out? If you did resize, let's say it was a 3# batch and you resized to 2.5# to leave room for the chunks, you will now have a 2.5# batch if you don't include them. The only thing to add would be the missing oil and WEAR GLOVES when grating the lye heavy soap.e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisR Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 IMHO I'd throw that batch out. I don't see how you could take the M&P chunks out, so you will have to melt them down with the CP soap in order to rebatch. If you do decide to rebatch, you may end up with a funky looking soap, but who knows, it may end up being a great soap!! Oversoyed stay to threads you know, or think you know something about, which sure isn't soaping. Metaphors or not, your idiotic babbling on a subject you know absolutely nothing about could hurt someone if they took your advice!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsngarden Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I would imagine you can still grate of chop up the soap, add the missing oil and it will still saponify, even with the other chunks in it. Nope, it won't be pretty, but likely still usable. Some of those ugly rebatches feel oh so good! you may need to add extra fragrance at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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