Skiminims Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Hi Everyone!I'm a complete and total newb (and proud to say it!) when it comes to candlemaking. I have yet to make my first batch (I'm still awaiting dyes). I picked out the 4630 container wax to start out with and bought some 8oz Jelly jars from Wally World to test with.After I make my test batch and get a couple recipies ironed out, I'm going to buy some prettier jars to give as gifts, ect. I completely fell in love with the 8oz Tureen jar. But alas, as I read through past posts on the forum, I've found that the Tureen is a difficult jar to work with. However, I love the jar too much to just plain give up on it quite yet.My question is, has anyone mastered this jar using the 4630? Did you single or double wick? I'm not sure what the diameter of the jar is of yet, so I haven't picked out a wick to use with it yet. Which did you end up using?Also, any advice you can give me concerning the Tureen would be great. Thanks all!~Lindsay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Hi Lindsay! Welcome to CT! I love the tureen jars too but I have only used them as wickless. So can't help you with the wicking. But they are perfect jars for making wickless candles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 Thanks for the welcome Candybee! I've seen quite a few posts on here where people have used them for wickless. As much as I love the jar, I may have to find something else if it's too difficult to properly wick them (especially when I'm just starting out) Thanks for your input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 I don't mean to bump my own thread, but I'm really considering using another container since not many have used the Tureen with the 4630 and from the posts I've read they can be rather frustrating to work with.I've found a 12oz Flaired Square container at CS I like and I guess the same question goes with this container. Has anyone used it? Is it easy to wick? Do you like it?It's 4" x 4"...bigger than a votive right?Sorry for all the questions! I really want to find a container and stick with it, but I want to make sure I can use it and like Thanks for your help everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebcandles Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Four inch jars are extremely hard to wick. You will most likely have to double wick that sucker. I find no matter what wax I am using, anything bigger than 2.75 inches needs to be double wicked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlebuddy Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 This is just from my own experience, and only my opinion, but you might want to perfect making jelly jar candles first, before you decide what type of jar candles you want to make next. I know it's exciting, but you may be running way ahead of yourself. I'm only saying this, because that's my tendency. I learned along time ago from this board, that it's best to get one container/type candle perfected before moving on to something else ... just a thought. Welcome to CT Lindsay. :smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 haha, I know exactly what you're talkin' about CB. I tend to get ahead of myself a lot. Heck I haven't even poured my first jelly jar yet! You should see how many spreadsheets I have made up already I think I'll take your advice and slow down a bit I'm just super excited to get started! eb,Are you talking height/width or diameter of the jar? When I said 4"x4" I meant height/width. *sheepish grin*My jelly jars are about 2.5" in diameter so I don't think I'll need to double wick...hopefully not anyway!Thanks guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tootie04 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I started out with jelly jars they are easy to do and give you a feel for what you are looking for in a good burning candle. I have single wicked jars up to 3.25 inches without problems any thing over that and you MAY have to double wick. I will NOT double wick....I dont have patience for it.tootie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Thanks for the input Tootie!I didn't want to buy any containers that were expensive in case I found out candlemaking wasn't for me, so I bought a small case of jelly jars at wally world. They'll be perfect for testing, because I highly doubt i'll get it done right the first time! I have a feeling my first attempt will be a beautiful disaster As for double wicking, we'll see how single wicking goes! I'm kinda like you, I don't have patience for certain things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 They'll be perfect for testing, because I highly doubt i'll get it done right the first time!Yeah, but only for testing jelly jars and whether or not you enjoy candlemaking. If you do find you enjoy making candles, you will have to test each container you use as they don't all wick/burn the same... Good luck & have fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissMary Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I started out with jelly jars they are easy to do and give you a feel for what you are looking for in a good burning candle. I have single wicked jars up to 3.25 inches without problems any thing over that and you MAY have to double wick. I will NOT double wick....I dont have patience for it.tootieExact same boat, except I will double wick. I'm working on 16 oz. Apothecarys right now, and think I'm finally happy with double wicking these. Though I'm still burning. However, the 16 oz travel tins, PITA because I found a good burn, without an insane flame to totally consume was triple wicking, and the setters didn't work properly for these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebcandles Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 eb,Are you talking height/width or diameter of the jar? When I said 4"x4" I meant height/width. *sheepish grin*I was talking about width.:smiley2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Haha, ok, now we're on the same page! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I really like the 8 wide-mouth canning jars for ease of wicking - they are more squat and, to me, easier to wick. The 16 oz. wide mouth jars are a little trickier to wick because of the depth, but not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Stupid question, but...To get a correct diameter measurement for my jelly jars, do you measure from the outside lip or the inside of the lip? I borrowed my hubby's calipers so I can get an accurate measurement :lipsrseal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda (OH) Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Myself I always measure the inside diameter of a jar, and I use my calipers too. But keep in mind that the thickness of the jar will affect your burn. Some container walls are thicker, like the jelly jars. Some apothecary type jars are thinner. Over wicking the thinner jars can cause them to become too hot and possibly crack or shatter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 Thank you Brenda! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenda (OH) Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Thank you Brenda!You're welcome - good luck and have fun testing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane42 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 We fought having to double wick our jars, but we use 4630 and 10 oz apothecary jars and we just could not get a good burn without double wicking. Good Luck and have lots of fun testing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meridith Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 Also be aware that canning jars sometimes are only in stores during canning season. So if you start with canning jars and plan on staying with them, you might find it difficult to find them at certain times of the year. It can also be difficult getting stores such as Walmart to order them for you. But not always. You will have to see what you have available in your area. Find a jar you like and stick with it. Don't test in a jar you have no plans on using or selling. To do so is a waste of time and money IMO. And make sure you have insurance before you start selling. Good luck and have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 Also be aware that canning jars sometimes are only in stores during canning season. So if you start with canning jars and plan on staying with them, you might find it difficult to find them at certain times of the year. It can also be difficult getting stores such as Walmart to order them for you. But not always. You will have to see what you have available in your area. Find a jar you like and stick with it. Don't test in a jar you have no plans on using or selling. To do so is a waste of time and money IMO. And make sure you have insurance before you start selling. Good luck and have fun.Thanks for the advice Meridith!As for the jar situtation, the only reason I went with jelly jars at first is because this is my first time making candles and I didn't want to buy really fancy jars if I wasn't going to use them all if I decided candlemaking wasn't right for me. If I do like it, I plan on getting jars I will stick with for the longrun.Thats why I was asking about the Tureen jars. I'm still considering using them but just double wicking. Whatcha all think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 I think one thing at a time. Get your wicking down on one container and then move on to others when you have a better *feel* for wicking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted August 2, 2008 Author Share Posted August 2, 2008 I think one thing at a time. Get your wicking down on one container and then move on to others when you have a better *feel* for wicking. That's what I was thinking too. I'm glad I got those jelly jars to start out with. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeahRB Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Also be aware that canning jars sometimes are only in stores during canning season. So if you start with canning jars and plan on staying with them, you might find it difficult to find them at certain times of the year. It can also be difficult getting stores such as Walmart to order them for you. But not always. You will have to see what you have available in your area. Find a jar you like and stick with it. Don't test in a jar you have no plans on using or selling. To do so is a waste of time and money IMO. And make sure you have insurance before you start selling. Good luck and have fun.I am a newbie too and that is exactly what I did. I use 4630 and I started out using canning jars first, too. I found that with 4630 a lot of the different FO required different wicks, so I had to do a lot of testing to get it right. After all that I decided to try a square jar that is approx. 4x4. Now I am back to testing again and using lots of wax and with the cost of this stuff I wish I had started out with what I wanted to begin with. If I were you I would find a jar that I like and just order a few and for testing purposes ONLY I would reuse the jars. Be careful because reuse can weaken the glass and I watch mine quite closely. At least that way when you figured out the wick you would not have to start all over with a different sized jar. I wish I would have. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiminims Posted August 4, 2008 Author Share Posted August 4, 2008 I am a newbie too and that is exactly what I did. I use 4630 and I started out using canning jars first, too. I found that with 4630 a lot of the different FO required different wicks, so I had to do a lot of testing to get it right. After all that I decided to try a square jar that is approx. 4x4. Now I am back to testing again and using lots of wax and with the cost of this stuff I wish I had started out with what I wanted to begin with. If I were you I would find a jar that I like and just order a few and for testing purposes ONLY I would reuse the jars. Be careful because reuse can weaken the glass and I watch mine quite closely. At least that way when you figured out the wick you would not have to start all over with a different sized jar. I wish I would have. Hope this helps!Hey alright! Another newbie, and a fellow Okie to boot Did you use 8oz canning jars? If so, is there a crtain wick you used frequently? I know you said diff FO's required certain wicks. I'll admit I'm a bit conflicted with the different advice I've been given, but since I bought and opened my jelly jars already, I guess I'll start with them. Any experience is good experience and the more I test, the more I'll learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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