PurpleHippie Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 (edited) In place of Crisco what do you prefer to use and why? I would like to use something other than tallow or soy. Edited August 23, 2009 by PurpleHippie addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scent Cellar Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I use palm oil because I like it better in my soaps and so do my customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara AL Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I would sub with Tallow and Babassu oil.Barbara AL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareBear Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 I don't sub for it. I like Crisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHippie Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 Well I need to sub it so I'll try the palm and the babassu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_35550 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 The current Crisco contains palm oil. I don't know how much but it may be significant enough that you get the best of both worlds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHippie Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 I didn't know that, I never buy Crisco. I wonder if the soap calculators reflex the new Crisco with the palm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Be careful of the high polyunsatured fat content of Crisco. It has much more than you would normally see in an oil with a solid texture. Too much of that makes a mediocre recipe and contributes to DOS.As far as substituting for Crisco, you have to know the fatty acid profile and use an oil that has a similar balance or a combination of oils that gets you about the right percentages. I think this is the breakdown for the latest version of Crisco but I'm not 100% sure:Myristic 0.4%Palmitic 14.1%Stearic 10.6%Oleic 44.5%Linoleic 24.5%Linolenic 1.6% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 All the different versions of Crisco are confusing. I just found a label for the all-veg shortening sticks on the Smucker Crisco.com site. If this is correct, it doesn't sound like a very good soaping oil.Saturated fat 25% (palmitic & stearic)Monounsatured fat 21% (oleic)Polyunsaturated fat 50% (mostly linoleic)Apart from the whacky fatty acid profiles, one reason I wouldn't soap with this product that they keep changing it and half the time you don't know what soap properties to expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_35550 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I have to agree with Top on this one. Supposedly Soapcalc is looking into changing the values to accomodate the change in formulation. Have you considered a meat shortening product as a sub?Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurpleHippie Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 I guess it would have helped if I stated why I wanted to sub Crisco:rolleyes2. I do not want to use any soy in my recipe. Doesn't Crisco contain soybean oil? I am also trying to keep the recipes vegan. Plus, like Top pointed out Crisco ingredients keep changing and it may make it difficult to know what soap properties to expect. I'll just stick with CO, PKO and Babassu. Thanks everyone for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hem06 Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I don't see CO, PKO or Babassu as a sub for Crisco--they are what I use for bubbly/cleansing oils. I use lard, and love it...so I am no help for subs unless you just use olive oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Ice Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 I used Crisco for nearly two years and I've never had a problem with it. I can't/won't ship palm in the summer so I use Crisco, lard & PKO instead. I like it my soaps and will continue to use it. It adds to the creamy lather that my customers demand in my DSM soap. It's basically the "Shortning and Shea" recipe here in the recipe section of the boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_35550 Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 high oleic sunflower or canola Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sara Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 I don't sub for it. I like Crisco.Ditto. Tried, and always came back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carriegsxr6 Posted August 31, 2009 Share Posted August 31, 2009 high oleic sunflower or canoladitto, and maybe add some palm stearic acid to your batch to get back some of the hardness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeana Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 The shortening I get is from walmart, not a name brand. It is made from soybean and cottonseed. I know you don't want to use soy but cottonseed makes a nice veg bar too. I don't do more than about 15 %. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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