Lorrie Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I was at a show this weekend and I met another person who makes soaps. I look at their labels and they were mixed with INCI and common names. So it got me thinking do other people do this also? I use common names because not everyone knows the INCI name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scent Cellar Posted September 14, 2009 Share Posted September 14, 2009 I list the common names on my soap labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heidijo Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Stupid question, but what is an INCI name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndulgentCreations Posted September 15, 2009 Share Posted September 15, 2009 Stupid question, but what is an INCI name?INCI is the chemical name such as sodium tallowate, sodium hydroxide, etc. I personally use the common name it's just easier for people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsngarden Posted September 23, 2009 Share Posted September 23, 2009 For soap I use common names, for lotions INCI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gle design Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 :tiptoe: Maybe I need to go back and verify, but I thought it was a requirement to list INCI on your product labeling if you are selling/marketing to the public... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarieJeanette Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 :tiptoe: Maybe I need to go back and verify, but I thought it was a requirement to list INCI on your product labeling if you are selling/marketing to the public...If you live in the US, no ingredients even need to be listed at all as long as your product is true soap (oils mixed with lye) and you are making no health claims. In other countries they have different labeling laws.MarieJeanette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwjacks Posted September 27, 2009 Share Posted September 27, 2009 I list both, the INCI & common name on all products, just a habit.Ex. Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Glycine Soja (soy) Oil, Tocopherol (Vitamin E) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacquiO Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 Common names here. But I do understand you needn't list ingredients with real soap but I do so in case people have allergies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gle design Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 If you live in the US, no ingredients even need to be listed at all as long as your product is true soap (oils mixed with lye) and you are making no health claims. In other countries they have different labeling laws.MarieJeanetteThank you for clarifying. As I make both soap and other b&b products, I use INCI on everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 I was at a show this weekend and I met another person who makes soaps. I look at their labels and they were mixed with INCI and common names. So it got me thinking do other people do this also? I use common names because not everyone knows the INCI name.I use the common names, except you can't have Vit. E on a label ya know ... not as Vitamin E that is unless you're drug approved. Also learned in PA, that I can't have everything on one label either (totally pbbbbth) so I have had to separate the ingredient list from the rest of the label and go back to two labels to avoid wasting too many single sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorrie Posted October 6, 2009 Author Share Posted October 6, 2009 Also learned in PA, that I can't have everything on one label either (totally pbbbbth) so I have had to separate the ingredient list from the rest of the label and go back to two labels to avoid wasting too many single sheets.Ok, what do you mean by this Scented? Are you saying that you have to have a separate label just for the ingredients. If so crap. I need to redo mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted October 7, 2009 Share Posted October 7, 2009 Well as I understand it, yes. Mind you, I don't want to understand it that way, but ... As I understand it, and maybe Kelly will either qualify this or tell me I misunderstood lol, but ... Have to have the name of the product, name and location of manufacturer or distributor, net quantity of contents in weight, volume or count and in metric and inch/pound units (for true soap) ... and on another label, the ingredients (if you're listing them) either on the side or the back. Now I tried to weezle out an OK to keep it all on one label and still got this no answer lol. If you are going to list ingredients, they need to be separate. Maybe someone else at the PA gathering will respond, but it was in Kelly Bloom's presentation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire and Ice Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I have a question: Do you list LYE on your igediants list? Lye is USED to create soap but there's no lye in the end product od the soap. I've seen it with and without lye listed in the ingrediants.I personally use the following on my labels:Sapified oils of Olive, Rice Bran, PKO, Soy. Also contains Distilled water, Dead Sea Mud or oats, silk and fragrance oils If you are going to list Sodium Hydroxcide, where would you list it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I list it and my list is based on weights ... most to least used. SH falls about fourth or fifth on my label if I'm not mistaken. Could be third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsngarden Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I put saponified oils of.... as well. There is no need to put lye on there because there isn't any. And actually there is no more olive oil, etc. either. Excepting what is left over after superfat. This is why it is not required for us to have ingredients on our soap at all anyway as long as we are selling it as just "soap". I list my ingredients as a courtesy as people want to know, but again, just by saying "saponified" I am indicating a chemical change happened to the listed ingredients anyway, so now they are just soap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorrie Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 If you are going to list Sodium Hydroxide, where would you list it?I actually list everything that goes into the pot to make soap in the order of highest amount to lowest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scent Cellar Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I do the same as Lorrie does listing all ingredients I put into the pot including water & sodium hydroxide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topofmurrayhill Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Listing something that's not in the product seems to defy the whole point of an ingredient list. I don't understand how that's justifiable.If you make soap out of tallow, the ingredient list is where you tell consumers that they're buying sodium tallowate or saponified tallow. It's not supposed to be a chemistry manual or soapmaking lesson. The product doesn't contain tallow or sodium hydroxide.I'm sure this is an old discussion that I haven't really followed, but it seems obvious to me what the correct ingredient list is. I have to believe that's consistent with the legal definition of ingredients as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbren Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 I list everything, common names, highest to lowest % Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SassySuds Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 INCI stands for International Nomenclature of Cosmetic Ingredients. Same in every language.I got myself into the habit of listing the common name, followed by INCI. Ingredients go from highest to lowest, including sodium hydroxide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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