classiccandle Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I hope this is the right sub-forum for this question, if not would you direct me to the correct one?I'd like to know how you market the weight of your candles? For example, an 8 oz Libbey Status jar with a glass flat lid will only hold about 6 oz's of wax so do you sell it as an 8 oz candle or 6 oz candle? Do you sell by the weight of the wax or the size of the container?Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_35550 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 My 12 oz salsa jar states 8 fl oz on the label and my 16 oz jar states 10 fl oz. HTH Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessex Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Net weight is the way to go. My 8 oz JJ hold 6.2, so I put Net Weight 6.2 ozs. Good example is the 12 oz Beanpot and 12 oz Status. Both are 12 oz, but one holds 9.0 oz and one holds 9.4 ozs. So thats how I label.HTHSteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbla Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hmmmmm, I'm guessing my status jars must be 12 oz because they will hold 8 oz of wax with room left for the wick.A few weeks ago I was at a country craft fair and saw a table of candles & soap for sell. The woman had these tiny jars that were labeled as 10 oz candles, and I knew that was a bald faced lie. My status jars are much larger and like I said, I can get 8 oz in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) There is a Federal reg about labeling. So many, many canndlemakers don't know about ... let alone follow ... these labeling requirements.Net Weight should be indicated in ounces ~ since it is in a solid form when you sell it. It's covered in Section 500.8 subparagraph (a).http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/part500.htm#7The whole 500 series (500 - 504) is a worthwhile and eye-opening read, IMO.If anyone does tapers or odd shaped candles should be aware of 501.7 http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/part501.htmWant to get into the labeling requirements deeper? Part 503 is for you - http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/part503.htmYeah - I know - TMI ! Edited December 15, 2010 by Judy, USMC Adding links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessex Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Oops, I haven't been putting the metric weight on my labels! Let them come and get me, LOL.Cheers,Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judy, USMC Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Oops, I haven't been putting the metric weight on my labels! Let them come and get me, LOL.Cheers,SteveYeah, like I'm sure there's a Dept of Candle Police (complete with scales ) that are going to come and get you! But at least you are putting the weight on your labels ... most of the ones I see at the craft fairs don't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psfponies Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 I put the weight of my wax not the container size. My 10 oz tins hold 7 oz of wax. I know a lady who sells her candles by the size of the jar not what they hold so you think your getting more for your money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psfponies Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 There is a Federal reg about labeling. So many, many canndlemakers don't know about ... let alone follow ... these labeling requirements.Net Weight should be indicated in ounces ~ since it is in a solid form when you sell it. It's covered in Section 500.8 subparagraph (a).http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/part500.htm#7The whole 500 series (500 - 504) is a worthwhile and eye-opening read, IMO.If anyone does tapers or odd shaped candles should be aware of 501.7 http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/part501.htmWant to get into the labeling requirements deeper? Part 503 is for you - http://www.ftc.gov/os/statutes/fpla/part503.htmYeah - I know - TMI !Guess I will have to change my soap labels I have them in grams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candybee Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Isn't grams a metric weight? I used to put net wt in oz followed by the grams on my labels. Now I put the jar size followed by the net wt in fluid oz:9 OZ Jar (Net Wt. 8 FL OZ/227g) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuminousBoutique Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 soap has different rules than candles..yeah I only put the wax weight, not the container size. But for shipping purposes I give total weight also in some cases, because some of those jars are so darn heavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EccoLights Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 Good info Judy =) Going to have to read up a bit more before we redo our labels this coming year =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wessex Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Isn't grams a metric weight? I used to put net wt in oz followed by the grams on my labels. Now I put the jar size followed by the net wt in fluid oz:9 OZ Jar (Net Wt. 8 FL OZ/227g)Since wax is a solid, the label must be in a mass net weight, not fluid weight.Steve Edited December 15, 2010 by Wessex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiccandle Posted December 15, 2010 Author Share Posted December 15, 2010 Thanks everyone for your input. Special thanks to Judy for the "official" declaration info! Who knew putting a label on a candle could be so complicated? Only the federal government would make it so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricofAZ Posted December 16, 2010 Share Posted December 16, 2010 I'm sure that everyone knows that container manufacturers size their products by water weight. A 12 oz container should hold 12 oz water to the fill line or the lip of the container if no fill line is indicated.Because wax by volume is lighter, the same volume of wax will weigh less. Plus, we don't always pour our wax to the lip of the container.No candle police, but there is a U.S. Department of Weights and Measures. Thanks, Judy, for the links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceM-CC Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 (edited) I'm sure that everyone knows that container manufacturers size their products by water weight. A 12 oz container should hold 12 oz water to the fill line or the lip of the container if no fill line is indicated.Because wax by volume is lighter, the same volume of wax will weigh less. Plus, we don't always pour our wax to the lip of the container.No candle police, but there is a U.S. Department of Weights and Measures. Thanks, Judy, for the links.The weight of water in ounces does not equal the number of fluid ounces. Water weighs about 8.3 lbs per gallon depending on the exact temperature, elevation, and other factors. A pound is 16 ounces, so a gallon of water weighs (has a mass of) about 133 ounces. A gallon has 128 fluid ounces, so a fl oz of water weighs about 1.04 ounces. 12 fl oz of water therefore weighs about 12.5 ounces. A fl oz of wax is lighter than a fl oz of water, because wax is less dense than water (wax floats in water). Edited April 29, 2013 by GraceM-CC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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