icecold Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 I ordered Palm oil from Soapers choice and they sent me RBD. Can this be used the same as my regular Palm (Solid) for CP? Will it make the soap softer? Not sure if I should send it back or just use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 (edited) They would send you what you ordered, but isn't the palm oil you just got a solid? Did you not get the no stir kind? If you didn't, then you'll need to stir what you got to make sure it is completely blended before you use it. Edited September 28, 2011 by Scented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecold Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 The one they sent me is fully liquid. Is this the same as the solid and just easier to use? I did not know you had to stir the solid palm. Even the 7 lb jugs from BC ad WSP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 You don't have to stir the no stir kind (soaper's choice specifically says it's a no-stir palm). If you've got a complete liquid, I really can't answer that one. I would suggest looking in the bottle to make sure there's nothing on the bottom though. If there is that needs to be incorporated in the rest of the oil before you use it. Call and talk to Mike at Soaper's Choice too though. He's awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecold Posted September 28, 2011 Author Share Posted September 28, 2011 Thanks Scented! I actually called them and they said it it must have melted during shipping so I opened it up and stirred it like crazy and portioned it out into baggies. I put them outside as it is a little cool out so I am hoping that they solidify so I can store them. I am actually glad it was melted as I have no idea how I would ever melt a 50 # pail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scented Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Wow. Well mine all came in a cube. Glad they helped ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecold Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 I ordered the RBD Palm which is in a bucket. I kind of wish it was a cube so I could just cut off what I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_35550 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Refined, bleached, deodorized palm oilPalm oil products are made using milling and refining processes: first using fractionation, with crystallization and separation processes to obtain solid (stearin), and liquid (olein) fractions. Then melting and degumming removes impurities. Then the oil is filtered and bleached. Next, physical refining removes smells and coloration, to produce refined bleached deodorized palm oil, or RBDPO, and free sheer fatty acids, which are used as an important raw material in the manufacture of soaps, washing powder and other hygiene and personal care products. RBDPO is the basic oil product sold on the world's commodity markets, although many companies fractionate it further into palm olein, for cooking oil or other products.[26] You got the good stuff and it often melts in hot weather during shipment. Most soapers order it during cooler times of the year and often buy it by co-op. That's a lot of palm oil, happy soaping. HTHSteve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecold Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Thanks for the info Chuck. I successfully repackaged and made 2 batches of soap today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyHausfrau Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 This is a little off topic - but the best thing in the world for digging solid oils out of a bucket is a metal ice cream scoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I've used RBD for years with no trouble. The soap made with it is as hard as with any other palm.Since it melted during shipment it would be wise to make sure you stir it very well before measuring off some for making soap. If it cools and solidifies on its own without votation a good bit of the stearic is likely to settle toward the bottom of the container. Soapers Choice recommends melting and stirring before each use. I have to admit I don't do that once it's been melted and votated (stirred) throughout the cool down in the 50lb pail.I agree with others that the homogenized in the cube is easier to cut off portions to use. It's also a plus not having to melt and stir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecold Posted October 10, 2011 Author Share Posted October 10, 2011 So are you saying after it melts and you stir and it hardens it is ok to just scoop and use? I did portion a bunch out in baggies but now I need more so I don't know if I have to melt the whole thing down again or not. I hope not! Thanks everyone for all the input on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallTayl Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I stir as it hardens to make sure the stearic is dispersed as it cools. I don't just stir at the start and walk away. it takes a good bit of time depending on the ambient temp. Then I just scoop and use after.If the workshop gets hot enough to melt the pail into a slurry I'll stir again before pulling from the pail so the stearic doesn't settle to the bottom.You may be fine without remelting. If you have different proportions of stearic in your different pails you may notice some batches are harder than others. You may notice no difference at all. If you do happen to notice a big difference, then you'll know to remelt and stir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I'd have a tendency to mix stuff from the first bags I filled with stuff from the last bags filled... That way if some of the components did settle, you'll be remixing them with the part of the bucket that was from the top... IOW, I would take part of the total amount from two sepearte bags. Does this make sense or am I overcomplicating things? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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