msant Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Hi everyone...I have been testing a combination of GB 415 and C3 with various fragrance oils. I'm finding that in my Universal Tumbler aka Crisa Jar with a diameter of 2.75 that my CD10s work well but there are fragrances that leave hangup even after 3rd burn. CD12s seem too hot. When I use a CD12 on those fragrances I achieve full meltpool within 1-2 hours in the first burn which I think is too hot...yikes!I test the wicks in 3 hour intervals..meaning I've been burning them for 3 hours at a time to test. Is there a wick that would fit into this slot...of being hotter than a CD10 but not as hot as CD12??Thank you!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennie12 Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) oops, replied to the wrong post, sorry Edited February 12, 2012 by jennie12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I am having a similar issue in 4630, same wicks sizes and diameter containers. You may find this crazy but here is one test I will do: CD-10 has a ROC of 0.23 and a flame height of 1.94; CD-12 is 0.24 and 2.39. Looking at CD-14 that wick has a ROC of 0.22 and a flame height of 2.02. Yes, I am going to try a CD-14, the lower ROC should give me a descent melt pool and the lower flame may give a intermediate heat. Another possibility would be an HTP105 or HTP1212.All theory, not tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 I actually have a CD-8 in a 3" status. I've tried 10, 12 & 14 these past weeks. They burn perfectly until 3rd or 4th burn, then go crazy. Pulsating, dancing, stretching, ugly flames. CandleScience suggests HTP73 in my size jar, which is equal to a CD-8 per the list someone posted. The 1st burn I tried left 1/4" hang-up. Burned well, trimmed wick to start a little longer then normal since it's so much smaller. I'll let y'all know as the burns go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyrose2712 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 I actually have a CD-8 in a 3" status. I've tried 10, 12 & 14 these past weeks. They burn perfectly until 3rd or 4th burn, then go crazy. Pulsating, dancing, stretching, ugly flames. CandleScience suggests HTP73 in my size jar, which is equal to a CD-8 per the list someone posted. The 1st burn I tried left 1/4" hang-up. Burned well, trimmed wick to start a little longer then normal since it's so much smaller. I'll let y'all know as the burns go. Can you direct me to the list? I am just wondering if it is different than the one I have. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottlecrafters Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) Can you direct me to the list? I am just wondering if it is different than the one I have. thankshttp://www.candlescience.com/learning/wick-guide.phpDon't treat it as "gospel"You might also try a CDN10, which from what I understand may give you a bigger melt pool. Not sure about the heat, etc. I am just now pouring some containers that will have CDN10 to test. Edited February 15, 2012 by Bottlecrafters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amyrose2712 Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://www.candlescience.com/learning/wick-guide.phpDon't treat it as "gospel"You might also try a CDN10, which from what I understand may give you a bigger melt pool. Not sure about the heat, etc. I am just now pouring some containers that will have CDN10 to test.Thanks. I do know this one. I thought maybe there was a list out there I have not seen. And by golly gee, I can't have that now, can I? HAHAH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChandlerWicks Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 The CD-8 was too small. CD-12 seems to be the best of these. Not happy with those, so will try the HTPs. No we have to have everything! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 If this helps at all... CDN14 is the winner so far in most of mine using 415 in the 8 ounce square masonI am finding even in the 464 the CDN's burn cooler and less mushroom than the CD'sAnd for some reason the 14 does a better job all around than the 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 If this helps at all... CDN14 is the winner so far in most of mine using 415 in the 8 ounce square masonI am finding even in the 464 the CDN's burn cooler and less mushroom than the CD'sAnd for some reason the 14 does a better job all around than the 12See my post #3 here, CD-12 is a "bigger" wick than CD-14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yes I see that on the charts... Every place you call and talk to has told me the 14 is bigger - they go in number sequence smallest to largest I think that is what confuses a lot of people even myself! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjdaines Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Yes I see that on the charts... Every place you call and talk to has told me the 14 is bigger - they go in number sequence smallest to largest I think that is what confuses a lot of people even myself! LOLCD-14 may physically be a larger wick but it's properties are certainly less than a CD-12 (if one believes the data). Same fir HTP 126, people confuse that as being the next in line after HTP 105 but based on performance it comes after HTP 1312. How these all work in our systems can only be determined by testing but we should not rely on naming system as the total guide as to how we do our testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon in KY Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 http://www.wicksunlimited.com/heinz_KST_candle_wicks.phphere is another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msant Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 This is so interesting. I would have never thought to try the CD 14. So odd...I thought it was a typo on the guide. Well I'm trying the CD 14. Placed my order for CDNs and they should arrive today to test those too. I feel like a mad scientist! It seems like alot of people love the CDNs. Do they bend as much as the CDs? Just curious since I know that they are pretreated a little differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonshine Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 They are about the same- for me anyways and much less mushroom- I do like them a lot but still test the cd' s along with them - I use soy though not paraffin or para- soy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixncharlie Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Who is selling the CDN's these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottlecrafters Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Who is selling the CDN's these days?Candle CocoonSouthwest Candle Supply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixncharlie Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebe318 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) Where do ya'll get your CDN wicks? I have tried keeping my supplies to a couple of stores and mainly use BC and BCS for wicks and FO but they do not have CDN just CD. Edited February 22, 2012 by bebe318 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stella1952 Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Read up in the thread... Post #17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebe318 Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 (edited) Can you not order online from wicks unlimited? Edited February 25, 2012 by bebe318 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Can you not order online from wicks unlimited?In mass quantities, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gbhunter Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Very massive quantities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msant Posted March 19, 2012 Author Share Posted March 19, 2012 Just an update. I've finally tested with CDN wicks. What I have found was that certain fo's need the CDN wick. So far I have 3 candle fragrances that need the CDN and that has worked out. So if CD 10 and CD12 did not produce a full melt pool and lots of hangup even by 3rd burn...I tested with CDN8 and CDN10 and those burned better! Anyway, just my findings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottlecrafters Posted March 19, 2012 Share Posted March 19, 2012 Just an update. I've finally tested with CDN wicks. What I have found was that certain fo's need the CDN wick. So far I have 3 candle fragrances that need the CDN and that has worked out. So if CD 10 and CD12 did not produce a full melt pool and lots of hangup even by 3rd burn...I tested with CDN8 and CDN10 and those burned better! Anyway, just my findings.So to clarify...You wicked a CD10 that did not get full MP, and switched to CDN8 and got full MP? And CD12 down to CDN10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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